Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad
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@Sentinel said in Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad:
Lack of easy access to Waydroid files (and Waydroid not having easy access to any UT files) is kind of a big issue. I've created a SystemD service to auto-mount the Waydroid folder on UT side, but most people won't be able to do that.
Could you share that system unit in another topic maybe?
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@Sentinel said in Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad:
this thread is about reasons why people can't switch to or keep using UT
Not the person who downvoted you - I never do that - but I'm not sure you understood fully the topic. If you reread it, you'll notice that it states something like 'we all know that UT has rough edges'. And the title specified 'bugs that drive you mad'. It was an incitation to priorize, not throw the kitchen sink at everything that crosses your mind about what could be better. In my reply I have strived to think about the problem giving the better ratio effort/result.
There is a whole web site dedicated to Windows annoyances, believe me when I say that it's far from empty and this is an OS that was a runaway success.
Listing everything is not useful and can be demoralizing for a small team, and using demeaning terms can be seen as bad even if adding a perfunctory 'sorry', and adding another for the length of your post. While your post contains interesting points, being long shows that you did not read the topic carefully. Sorry
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@Keneda said in Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad:
If people can migrate from android to apple and the other way without worrying about their data, that's because those companies understood people will not migrate if their data can't migrate with them
Are you saying that there is integrated into Android and IOS a way to get at your history from the other operating system and get back all your SMS threads and telephony calls ?
I am not caring about this particularly, for the record I just give it a look and found the telephony history into a sqlite3 database under ~/.local/share/history-service and (I think since it's more murky) the sms data is under ~/.local/share/nuntium. So backing the home directory should be enough to back up all this data (rsync could be used even if a cloud backup could be seen as a great idea by many), however I don't think that investing time to port/get this data from every OS under the sun would be a great idea given all the Really Important Things (TM) that need to be done.
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It's sifnificative that the main use of UT is Waydroid. So, we want to use a Linux distro to run .exe files. Maybe, you do not want to use a Linux distro, maybe you want to use Windows but you don't like it.
Another planet, another time, another universe!
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@CiberSheep Waydroid runs .apk files, not .exe files. So: Android apps.
That said, it's as true now as ever that the happiest UT users are those who aren't interested in running Android applications.
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@gpatel-fr said in Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad:Are you saying that there is integrated into Android and IOS a way to get at your history from the other operating system and get back all your SMS threads and telephony calls ?
Yes, kind of.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/118670
https://support.google.com/android/answer/13626960?hl=en&sjid=12124687779136252823-EUAnd regarding save and restore only (not transferring), Ubuntu Touch targets all user types, not only powerusers, so rsync or things like that is not relevant for the "normal" user.
I know work has been done for integrating a save and restore tool to the UBports installer, did see some image even I remember. -
@CiberSheep the dream of Waydroid-less UT died with every bank under the sun choosing to implement PSD2 with custom apps
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@Keneda said in Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad:
Yes, kind of.
Thanks, interesting. It's worthy of note that - as could be expected - these corporations only provide a way to migrate to their own platform, not from their things to competing services. If you want to go away of me, take care of yourself, they say. Note sure it would be realist to expect otherwise of anyone.
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I’d like to add my vote regarding the camera—it’s the main limitation for me. From what I understand, this isn’t something that can be fixed simply by creating a new camera app, as the issue seems to run through multiple levels of the system. As far as I recall, the core limitation is already present in Halium: shots take too long, not all features are exposed, higher resolutions can easily overexpose, and overall the photos look far worse compared to what Android delivers.
Of course, this is likely a per-device issue, making a universal fix difficult. Still, there are numerous GCam tweaks available for different devices, and I wonder if a similar approach could be explored for Ubuntu Touch. Even the native AOSP camera tends to work more reliably, despite its own limitations.
Running Waydroid alongside UT isn’t a viable solution either, as it consumes a lot of battery and the two environments don’t integrate well.
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But the way I would like to mention few things that are currently priority 5 to me, but that could very fast become priority 2 if alternatives are no longer are available:
- VoLTE ( should work on my vollaPhone 22 with next release I will test next week )
- e-SIM
- RCS
Also there are 2 things that could make Ubuntu Touch unusable if we don't pay attention:
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Identity checking: that currently in France very few people is doing through the smartphone, but the gouvernement is currently developing a solution for Google/Apple only. I've contacted them about that. I known in some countries it is already far worse, like bankid sweeden.
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Banking an Payment apps. Again for now I don't care because I can pay with my credit card (and prefer to do so anyway), and banks offer alternatives to authentication with app if you really ask to (with SMS or Yubikey ).
Again now those two points are not a problem for me right now, but it could change fast, so we should all make sure to be as loud as possible, and not quietly accept to use their Google play store app (even if it's more or less possible for now with compatibility layer, it would be quite easy for google to cut that away in the future), to make sure alternatives remain available, and we are not locked away. Especially because European law officially gives us the right to ask for interoperable alternatives. Because Ubuntu Touch can be as good as we want, if we get excluded from official/compulsory services for using it, it will prevent us all from using it as a daily driver.
