Hello, I'm interested in implementing a system-wide call/number blocking feature (re: https://github.com/ubports/dialer-app/issues/18, https://github.com/ubports/telephony-service/issues/43).

I know what I would like from it:

• contacts app integration
• call blocking
• sms blocking
• ability to see history for blocked numbers
• ability to easily block a number after the call

But I'd also like to hear what the community wants so I don't miss anything, so let me know.

THIS IS NOT A TOPIC TO ASK FOR PROGRESS, NOR WILL ANY PROGRESS BE SHARED HERE.
Please stay on topic and post what you need from such a functionality. Asking for progress here is pointless - once I have time and have something you will definitely hear about it

@domubpkm Yeah, I know about f-call But this feature should be integrated into the OS though, so that's what I'm going to do. SailfishOS's ofono fork will help a lot.

@keneda I've been deep in ofono recently so let's say the force is guiding me pretty well

No ETAs as usual, but things are slowly falling into place.

@dizzy Silent mode / dnd was split into a separate topic (can't find it now though, not sure what happened - if nobody beats me to it I'll probably work on that one too). This one is about blocking specific numbers from being able to call/message you

I want this to be a part of the OS, not an app. As for donations, you can always donate to UBports: https://ubports.com/donate

@dtarrant Going back to Android first might be the easiest - should all happen in fastboot so once you boot that it should be fine.

@kugiigi It's a pin code, security is not improved that much by not showing the length - best UX would be to offer a choice.

But if we are not saving the length then it should start with no circles - we could show some helper text like "enter PIN" and "enter PIN or use the fingerprint scanner" if that's also set up.

The circles could show up empty and fill over ~200ms to preserve the current design a bit too.

Also, @lduboeuf why 12 as the new limit?

@emphrath said in Talk to the Non-Geek People:

You don't want me to touch html code

Good thing is the docs are written in reStructuredText, no HTML involved and pretty easy to write in any text editor. Or I can convert an odf/docx file for you, if you want (and make some simple diagrams if you add photos/images/doodles/descriptions).

@domubpkm I have a plan and did some research, but no concrete implementation yet - I do think I could start some tests in the near future though. I'll keep you all updated in this thread.

@Vlad-Nirky afaik you can't switch during a call anyway, so if it tried it would have ended the call anyway.

@wouterx said:

Lomiri greeter: I set a numeric PIN and when opening the keyboard appears where previously a numeric keypad showed.

Not only that, but at least here (FP5) I can't change it in settings either, looks like some polkit issues (ignore the date, didn't connect to WiFi yet):

Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet polkitd[2091]: Identity `unix-group:admin' is not valid, ignoring: No UNIX group with name admin: Success
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: Starting polkit-agent-helper@2-4794-32011.service - Authorization Manager Agent Helper (PID 4794/UID 32011)...
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet maliit-server[4473]: inputMethod::reset()
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet maliit-server[4473]: in clear preedit.. clearing word engine
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet polkit-agent-helper-1[4802]: Pidfd not supported on this platform, disable polkit-agent-helper.socket and use setuid helper
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet polkitd[2091]: Operator of unix-process:4794:8093 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action org.freedesktop.accounts.change-own-password for system-bus-name::1.113 [/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/lomiri-system-settings/private/Lomiri/SystemSettings/SecurityPrivacy/LomiriSecurityPrivacyHelper] (owned by unix-user:phablet)
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet lomiri-system-settings[4643]: "/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/lomiri-system-settings/private/Lomiri/SystemSettings/SecurityPrivacy/LomiriSecurityPrivacyHelper" failed to run with exit status: 1
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet passwd[4804]: pam_extrausers(passwd:chauthtok): unrecognized ENCRYPT_METHOD value [YESCRYPT]
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet passwd[4804]: pam_extrausers(passwd:chauthtok): unrecognized ENCRYPT_METHOD value [YESCRYPT]
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet passwd[4804]: pam_unix(passwd:chauthtok): user "phablet" does not exist in /etc/passwd
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: polkit-agent-helper@2-4794-32011.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: polkit-agent-helper@2-4794-32011.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: Failed to start polkit-agent-helper@2-4794-32011.service - Authorization Manager Agent Helper (PID 4794/UID 32011).

While waiting for my Pebble Steel to arrive (so I can debug why it refuses to work on more recent BlueZ) I'm working on an app for a few smartwatches/bands I have (generic M16-mini, Amazfit Bip, Bangle.js 2, possibly Amazfit Stratos and Huawei Band 7).

I'll make it generic enough to make it easy to add new watches/bands (but at the same time support as close to 100% of the device functionality as humanly possible), but if there is a particular device a lot of people use or want to use I could try to get it and add it in the first release.

Admins have been notified, don't worry - you didn't get banned, something just broke.

Errors like these when trying to login:

@Ida_ ok, now I got it - leave it on Norwegian, lock the screen, unlock and type in your passcode - will be broken. issue link

@Ida_ I just reproduced this by mistake on FP4, I wonder if it has something to do with the Norwegian one because it only happened after I enabled it to check. It also has a bit different symbol layout than English.

Ok I think I can actually pretty consistently reproduce this with the Norwegian layout.

@pparent maybe inform the people you are asking to run random commands that this will run said app unconfined.

Launching apps outside lomiri-app-launch is not going to help debug things, you are introducing a whole lot of additional uncertainties. I asked about immodules to know where to look, not assuming it's the reason.

Someone will look into it.

@ida_ thanks! Looks like it was missed in the packaging repos. You can generally file things in https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/ubuntu-touch/-/work_items if you are unsure where to put them.

@Vlad-Nirky afaik you can't switch during a call anyway, so if it tried it would have ended the call anyway.

@wouterx said:

Lomiri greeter: I set a numeric PIN and when opening the keyboard appears where previously a numeric keypad showed.

Not only that, but at least here (FP5) I can't change it in settings either, looks like some polkit issues (ignore the date, didn't connect to WiFi yet):

Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet polkitd[2091]: Identity `unix-group:admin' is not valid, ignoring: No UNIX group with name admin: Success
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: Starting polkit-agent-helper@2-4794-32011.service - Authorization Manager Agent Helper (PID 4794/UID 32011)...
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet maliit-server[4473]: inputMethod::reset()
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet maliit-server[4473]: in clear preedit.. clearing word engine
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet polkit-agent-helper-1[4802]: Pidfd not supported on this platform, disable polkit-agent-helper.socket and use setuid helper
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet polkitd[2091]: Operator of unix-process:4794:8093 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action org.freedesktop.accounts.change-own-password for system-bus-name::1.113 [/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/lomiri-system-settings/private/Lomiri/SystemSettings/SecurityPrivacy/LomiriSecurityPrivacyHelper] (owned by unix-user:phablet)
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet lomiri-system-settings[4643]: "/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/lomiri-system-settings/private/Lomiri/SystemSettings/SecurityPrivacy/LomiriSecurityPrivacyHelper" failed to run with exit status: 1
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet passwd[4804]: pam_extrausers(passwd:chauthtok): unrecognized ENCRYPT_METHOD value [YESCRYPT]
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet passwd[4804]: pam_extrausers(passwd:chauthtok): unrecognized ENCRYPT_METHOD value [YESCRYPT]
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet passwd[4804]: pam_unix(passwd:chauthtok): user "phablet" does not exist in /etc/passwd
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: polkit-agent-helper@2-4794-32011.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: polkit-agent-helper@2-4794-32011.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Apr 29 22:26:28 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: Failed to start polkit-agent-helper@2-4794-32011.service - Authorization Manager Agent Helper (PID 4794/UID 32011).

@pparent have you reported the issue anywhere? Not sure if anyone worked on that. Did this testing result in any logs or anything that could point us to a cause? Are these apps still using my immodules.cache hack from back in xenial?

@messayisto Use the installer, make sure none of the checkboxes are selected and install 24.04-1.x

@alagirialagiri the Android version doesn't matter here.

miatoll is on the second list for a reason - it turned out to be broken last minute and had to be disabled, the number of variants meant it took a while to verify - it will also most likely go in the RC.

merlin was updated too late to make the cut for beta, it will have to wait for RC. You can try the instructions as this device is not on either of the lists:

@peat_psuwit said:

3. Devices that are not in either of the list above. We don't have enough information to determine if they'll work on 24.04-2.x, so we need testing from you. To do so, make sure you're on a spare device, then follow the same instructions above but switch to Daily channel instead of Release Candidate channel. The possible results are:

• Your device upgrade successfully. In such case, congratulations, your device should be working with 24.04-2.x. Please report back to us, and we'll enable your device to receive 24.04-2.0 RC and 24.04-2.0, or if not possible in time, for 24.04-2.1 or subsequent releases.
• Your device fails to upgrade. In such case, please use UBports Installer to restore 24.04-1.x on your device, and then also report to us to disable updates to these devices too.

In case anyone finds this in 2026 and beyond:

NONE OF THIS IS NECESSARY SINCE FOCAL, WAYDROID COMES PREINSTALLED, YOU JUST NEED TO INITIALIZE IT

Would be nice if the post was deleted / edited though as people are still finding and trying to follow it and others like it.

@peat_psuwit do you have a spec for the Thai EBS? Looks like they require a working SIM card?

I still maintain that we'll need a CB topic database from e.g. Android and should not not rely on hardcoded set of topics from a non-regional specification.

In theory we should only need the table from 9.4.1.2.2 of 3GPP TS 23.041.

Unfortunately, the test today is inconclusive on whether we need to explicitly subscribe to topic "4370" or not.

We don't already? According to the same table, 4370 is not supposed to be settable by the user and always subscribed (I'm kind of extending the 3GPP definition of MMI here) so this shouldn't be a question - since afaik it's not required to be implemented at modem level, we should check what ofono reports and subscribe to the missing ones.