lets talk about the phasing out of haluim

grenudi

@developerbayman I got spoiled with those AI's Yes, hitting those books would be much more productive than me consulting LLMS over shoulder

developerbayman

@grenudi lol ill take it though i started programming when i was nine i am 43 now ...so for most of my life i had to bang my head on syntax ...now i can simply stop the headache and run it through a LLM ...HOWEVER... it is NOT a END all beat all .....if your not careful things can go off the rails very quickly or you will get garbage ......but thank god long gone are the days of "iv been stuck on why this function hasnt worked for the last six months!" ....thank god!!! and good riddance!!

kugiigi

@grenudi Which projects ditch halium?

developerbayman

@kugiigi im just guessing but i would think like pixels and other phones where the drivers are not on lock ...i dont actually know tho

kugiigi

@developerbayman I only know Droidian and UT. I don't know any other projects that use Halium and has actual daily driver users.

postmarketOS has always been about mainlining mobile devices so it's not that.

developerbayman

@kugiigi yeah i dont know either ....to bad we couldnt simply design our own phone specifically for the project like midrange ....actually didnt they do that already? ...i know eventually im working off and on on porting UT to the orange pi 5 thing will become more interesting at that point i think ...one distro at a time i suppose lol

DenMoore

@kugiigi Furi-os uses Halium. Many daily driver users. Using the dual boot feature, UT makes a good daily driver as well.

kugiigi

@DenMoore Isn't FuriOS use like Debian + Phosh?
But yeah, Halium exists so we can have usable alternative OSes without having to go through the rigorous process of mainlining every device. Mainline is much better but not realistic to get something usable immediately.

libremax

@kugiigi Not precisely, it's a Mobian fork.

projectmoon

@kugiigi said:

@DenMoore Isn't FuriOS use like Debian + Phosh?
But yeah, Halium exists so we can have usable alternative OSes without having to go through the rigorous process of mainlining every device. Mainline is much better but not realistic to get something usable immediately.

Or within any reasonable time frame, unfortunately. The OnePlus 6 is probably as far back as I'd stretch "reasonable," and it's on the tail end of "reasonable," being ~7 (8?) years old at this point. It's extremely unfortunate.

FuriOS is Phosh on top of Debian base, yes, probably with some other stuff to make the phone work as well.