Choosing the right phone?



  • I've been a UT and UBP user since the E4.5 came out. I really like the gesture based control and a lot of other things, and I like this project to succeed. I also have a dislike in google and apple, which kind of limits my options :-)
    I use my phone as a daily driver, and currently I'm using the MX4. I also have a OPO where I've tried the different UBP versions.
    But now my MX4 is starting to act strangely. When I wan't to use the phone app, it often hangs at "Initializing". It also loses network connectivity, but this seems to be a baseband/firmware thing. Time to start using another phone.................

    My options are:

    Another MX4:
    Soso hardware, and annoying baseband issues. Working bluetooth is good (and a must, since I have a long commute, where I use the phone alot for calling)

    OPO:
    Good hardware, working radio, but bluetooth not working. I've created bugs on this, but nothing happens. No BT means no go.

    Nexus:
    I have one with a broken screen next to me. Battery life seems unacceptable, but maybe a new(er) one could help? Does it work with BT - anyone?

    E4.5:
    Too small, and BT is also flaky.

    E5
    Same BT as E4.5?, but better size.

    FP2:
    No idea

    I can understand why the developers want to try all the new and fancy stuff, like libertine, anbox and so on. Since it's the developers that run the show, this seems to set the agenda.
    You've probably heard this before, but how about choosing just one phone, and make sure that all (or most) of the kinks are sorted? Use some of the donated money to buy one for each of the key developers.

    I still have problems using SMS and MMS is no go. I can live with that, but please fix bluetooth :-)

    Regards

    Grisen



  • @grisen I would hang on abit until 16.04 is up and running or go with the OPO remembering to do flohack two updates. Your mx 4 and bq are getting old and as you say nexus battery life is fun to say the least. 16.04 should solve these issues and give a clearer way forward.howto-change-the-name-of-your-device-for-bluetooth-pairing
    @Flohack updates
    https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1015/howto-opo-fix-mtp-driver-permissions
    https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1030/howto-change-the-name-of-your-device-for-bluetooth-pairing



  • @grisen we are all in the same boat and we all want more devices running UT but as you can see (*) porting is an extremely difficult task. Any help is welcome.

    I can understand why the developers want to try all the new and fancy stuff, like libertine, anbox and so on. Since it's the developers that run the show, this seems to set the agenda.

    That isn't true, the main focus now is the jump to 16.04, and all developers are working in that direction.

    Libertine is not new and fancy stuff, is "old" container technology, and regarding anbox, it seems that's what the majority of the community wants (I don't like it personally) but even that is paused because all hands are working in the transition to xenial.

    "The show", as you call it, is run by the community not just the developers but they are the ones doing the heavy lifting, that's for sure.

    We all should ask ourselves what are we doing for the project ;)

    but how about choosing just one phone

    What should that phone model be? Any proposal?

    I still have problems using SMS and MMS is no go.

    SMS and MMS depends on the carrier. I don't have any problem with sms and I don't know about MMS because I don't use it.

    but please fix bluetooth

    Devs are working on that as you can see in the bug tracker.

    (*) https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html



  • @grisen maybe wait a while for the Oneplus3 and Oneplus5 as Marius said in latest Q&A, it supposed to be a surprise, but it slipped out, that he has a running Oneplus 3 and 5 so, they might become the next devices after 16.04 is out. I'm myself waiting for Oneplus 5, I believe it will be a beast.
    And hopefully the bluetooth will work, as this should be on HALIUM, so chances are high.
    Wait and see is my advice.



  • I'm sorry if my original post was too salty - it wasn't meant that way. I'm staying on UBP because I like it, but the way things are done (the show) tends to put focus on new functionality, rather than fixing bugs. Unfortunately I don't know how to code, so I just donate.
    As for choosing one phone, I'd propose the OPO. Make that work flawlessly (or close). It's pretty capable, available and not too pricey.
    I look forward to running on a OP3 or 5, but I'm afraid my MX4 won't last long.
    Who can help me with SMS/MMS? I'll be happy to supply logs etc..

    Regards

    Grisen



  • @grisen no problem.

    I don't know how to code, so I just donate.

    This answer is not just for you but for all the people reading the forum. There are other ways to help the project too, like translating, beta-testing, confirming bugs in the bug tracker, writing documentation, helping with UT installation, solving newbies doubts, etc

    Who can help me with SMS/MMS? I'll be happy to supply logs etc..

    A good starting point is searching what is reported already, and then add your experience to an open bug report, or create a new bug report if it doesn't exist yet.

    For example, you could start here https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+mms



  • @grisen Hello again : ) To start with have you or can you check that all is OK from your carriers end with sms and mms settings. Either give them a call or try the sim in another phone. Then we will know exactly where we are. Also try switching airoplane mode on and off sometimes this helps reset the sim info somehow, never been sure why but worth a try.



  • @grisen said in Choosing the right phone?:

    but the way things are done (the show) tends to put focus on new functionality, rather than fixing bugs.

    Moving to 16.04 code base is the way chosen to help fixing bugs and security issues for the next coming years; it's not at all focusing on new functionality...



  • @libremax Ok - thanks for clarifying that. I look forward to 16.04.

    @Lakota - The Sim works in non-UBP/UT-phones. I also tried switching on/off aeroplane mode. Strangely enough, I can now recieve MMS's, but they're always from "Unknown number", which is a pita. This indicates that the problem is provider specific.

    Regards

    Grisen



  • @grisen Hi , Just reread this. Is it now fixed ? when you say provider specific do you mean your sim provider or UBports? not sure from the post. Have you checked your APN settings are correct (system settings, mobile) I guess the mms box will now be ticked. Can you get emails. Lastly which phone as all of mine worked straight away but I don't have an OPO.



  • @lakota No, it's not fixed. I checked APN settings. By provider I mean carrier :-)
    Recieving MMS works, but all the MMS's seems to come from "Unknown number".
    I'm using an MX4, and I can recieve emails, but they just use normal data.

    Regards

    Grisen



  • @grisen Ok, the email thing was really just to check nothing else was up. One last thing try switching to the dev channel in update settings and see if that fixes anything. You can swop back to stable or Rc after if you wish but my MX4 is fine on dev. Still seems like something to do with settings or permissions somewhere though I'm not sure where.



  • @lakota Woohoo. Just switched to dev and now I can send MMS'es. Recieved MMS's are still from "Unknown number".
    Thanks.

    Regards

    Grisen



  • @grisen Good, progress even small is still progress : ) This might be pushing it but what about sms, is that 0k.



  • @advocatux said in Choosing the right phone?:

    @grisen no problem.

    I don't know how to code, so I just donate.

    This answer is not just for you but for all the people reading the forum. There are other ways to help the project too, like translating, beta-testing, confirming bugs in the bug tracker, writing documentation, helping with UT installation, solving newbies doubts, etc

    Who can help me with SMS/MMS? I'll be happy to supply logs etc..

    A good starting point is searching what is reported already, and then add your experience to an open bug report, or create a new bug report if it doesn't exist yet.

    For example, you could start here https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+mms

    I'm curious about helping but like many, have no technical education. I have a Nexus 4 and a 1+1 for about 8 weeks now. So I suppose I can, Test Bugs? on either. Feeling a wee helpless, I made a donation tonight as I really hate Android and Blackberry OS10 is being given Benign Neglect.



  • @mawil1013 Great that you want to help. Have a look at this tutorial for how to do a bug report
    https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1086/bug-reporting-tutorial-on-the-news-channel-moved
    Don't worry about your lack of technical skills. You'll soon pick them up. I have none either and what I do know I've picked up from others showing and helping me.
    One last thing. There's no reason to copy all of the post your replying to in it. In most cases just hitting the reply button on the post or comment you are replying to is fine. Or just copy a little section if it something specific.
    Hope this helps and enjoy Ubports.

    P.S Also have a look at these Tutorials as well
    https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/using-vpn-in-ubuntu-touch-132
    https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/uwriter-129
    https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/terminal-chapter-1-113
    https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/terminal-chapter-2-117
    https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/terminal-chapter-3-124
    https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/terminal-chapter-4-125
    https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ut-tweak-tool-109



  • @lakota Great links! A lot of home work! thanks!


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