What is your main points for a perfect personal phone operative system?

bluexxx

VPN support for cisco (vpnc)
Convergence
UBPorts-Image support for Nexus7 2013 wifi
Stable devices & software
Fully integrated with standards like : Mail, Caldav, Webdav, Carddav etc...
Strong base software : Mail, GPS, Communication, Browser
System-updates
Backup like dejadup on ubuntu desktop
LAN-sync on auto-connection to lan-target like nas selected folders on the mobile-device
And very important for protecting our health !!! - The killer feature in my opinion -> Timer for ubuntu touch flight mode (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1655854) i ask also on launchpad

Thank for the good job on OpenStore, Telegram, LoquiIM, UNav and all the other things around UbuntuTouch. I believe in you ... please keep UbuntuTouch alive.

A Former User

I want just to have the ability to migrate running applications from desktop to phone and vice versa. Obviously in order to do that, as a start you need to have the same OS/apps in both systems (see convergence).

Also an important issue for me with today's phones is that applications come from different vendors and there are no common frameworks for interoperability, especially related to context information each application can handle. For example I would love to have a phone that based on my current status (ie on a meeting), which can be inferred by the calendar application's context, automatically switches to silent mode, or if it automatically switches to vibration mode if you are in a noisy environment, or if during the night turns to silent mode (based on the lights level and location) and allows only calls from people in your contact list to wake you up, etc.

Hope yuniy will get there $:\$

Marathon2422

to have anbox working for those that want Ubuntu,but need android for certain apps,for banks,and stuff like that.

uzanto

I want to work as in Desktop, no OTA updates, sudo apt update for do this, or a GUI like Software&Updates for the people don't want to use the terminal emulator, freedom to do everything on the system basically without stupid limitations.

Aury88

I agree with all your points.
I need a smartphone that is also a smart-assistant for my works and that keep (or try to keep) google or any other patriotact approved company away from my data.
Also a Phone that is easily hackable is a must to make my phone cover my needs and this is connected to another point in my wishlist: the phone should be useful for the open communities and the onlus. eg: On the "market" I should be able to directly donate money, see/contribute to the sourcecode and directly login and communicate with the community behind the develop of the apps or see their news/blog post. the smartphone should give an independent and easily way to keep communities in contact, share information/allert with their affiliates and interact with them. so, long story short, what really mater is an opensource SO, based on opensource services, with an easy and powerful sdk

Sconio

FRENCH

Voici se que j'attend de mon Meizu pro 5 sous UBport dans le future :

Utiliser les applications Fenêtré comme en Scène ;

Thunderbird
Filezilla
Firefox
Gimp
Audacity
Tox "uTox, qTox..." (alternative à Skype)
Un gestionnaire de téléchargement "comme IDM" Open Source.
Un Gestionnaire de protocol SIP.

PS: Comment se procurer votre appareil de convergence USB/HDMI ?
(si commercialiser) ou ( les plans.)

ENGLISH

Here is what I expect from my Meizu pro 5 under UBport in the future: :

Use Windowed and Scene Applications ;

Thunderbird
Filezilla
Firefox
Gimp
Audacity
Tox "uTox, qTox..." (alternative Skype)
A download manager "like IDM" Open Source.
A SIP protocol manager.

PS: *How do I get your converged USB/HDMI device
(If commercializing) or (the plans.)

bluexxx

More and more people die on CANCER!!! - 8% per year in saxony/germany since 2012 and growing

Please develop a timer for ubuntu-touch flight-mode to reduce microwave-ray for example at night when the phone lie near the body and is used as alarm clock.

Microwave ray like bluetooth, wlan, lte, umts, gsm, ... becomes under suspicion to increase cancer.

By the way we would have a great feature to have an simple option for automatic turn on and off the mobile radio modules for digital freedom at evening.

A Timer for ubuntu touch flight mode could be the solution for our health and digital freedom.

Aditional it is an option to safe power in a unused time of the phone.

Is see the campaign:

Ubuntu Touch is healthy! - for your privacy and body - NO tracing and REDUCED microwave-ray

Dear UBPorts-Team and Community ... thanks for protecting our health and making UbuntuTouch healthy.

Best Regards
Marco Bludszus
(Germany / Saxony / Chemnitz)

bluexxx

Additional for browser-privancy:

FireGloves is a great project for browser-privacy:
https://fingerprint.pet-portal.eu/?menu=6
and:
https://pet-portal.eu/blog/read/533/?set_language=eng.

It works like a random generator for the public values of the useragent.
Is it possible to integrate this in the browser?

Best Regards
Marco Bludszus
(Germany / Saxony / Chemnitz)

mike

@bluexxx
yes and for me develope please a microwave-heater function for the coffee-mug ... dont panic! radiation makes smart a lot of superheroes where born with it...joke... no really there are a lot of testings by factories and goverments about the radiation-story. if it would be a powerfull electric magnetic radiation.... you would see it... the battery would not survive a minute because radiotation needs a energysource...and by now the mobile-phones have not enugh power in the battery to cook your head. i have a simple microwave-broadband- measurement-device from the grocery-store ....there was silence and never a allert by mobile-phone-antennas .

NeoTheThird

@mike said in What is your main points for a perfect personal phone operative system?:

yes and for me develope please a microwave-heater function for the coffee-mug

Say no more, i'll file an enhancement proposal. TO THE ISSUE TRACKER!

mike

@NeoTheThird oh.... iam quiet ..silent as a mice :0)

tsp

Just stumbled over this thread and thought I'd write what would be the most important and compelling reasons for me to use an totally ideal (i know many of the points are utopic) mobile operating system (some points are unfortunately also hardware related) ...

... is one i can deploy myself on my own hardware, one which does not use any closed source blobs (not for device drivers, not for baseband module, etc.) so that i can update the operating system for the next decades on my own and which can be build easily without much dependencies to install and without many assumptions about the system one is building on (ideally only with the expectation to have any standard compliant C compiler installed - and for example one of the (g)make tools)
One that supports something like secureboot (with one own's key) starting starting from the (real) ROM that launches the bootloader so that i can be assured that the OS that i flashed has not been tampered with
It's an OS with a clear designed API which also features separation and clear loose coupling between applications (where applications can invoke actions of other applications by their type and not by specifying which application to use - like it's possible with android's intents)
It's an OS for which I can write my own apps on my usual development plattform (i.e. not a specific linux distribution but also on windows and other unices) by looking up how everything works in good structured documentation
It's an operating systeme where i can control permissions on a fine grained basis (network access to specific remote adresses and ports / bindings to specific local ports and to specific scope (local and/or remote), file access to specific directories / files, etc.)
An operating system without any preinstalled applications that i cannot remove
An operating system that does deliver some basic apps (like telephony, sms, contacts database; maybe a webdav server and/or client for file exchange) that i could replace myself but which also expose a standardized interface to invoke for third party applications on their behalve (for example to allow another application to prepare a SMS and show me inside the SMS application where i can give my consent for transmission or - in case i've given the permissions - allows the third party application to transmit / receive any time without any user interaction).
Preinstalled applications that allow me to synchronize my data (contacts, etc.) to my own services which do not bring any cloud connection with them as they are preinstalled (of course such things should be available via third party tools optionally)
An operating system that does not contain any DRM components and does not deliver any applications that support DRM in any way.
An operating system that does not couple to a specific app store
An operating system that does not kill my applications in a random way if memory pressure get's high (i.e. no overcommit) but which allows to allocate fixed amount of memory to some critical applications and memory pressure callbacks for other applications
Development: An operating system that is bundled with a framework that allows for easy screen size independent development of applications; and a framework that allows easy (+- lightweight) IPC so that applications can be coupled via registerable actions so that they can be modularized and used by external applications in an easy way. And a framework that provides APIs that are stable on the really long term which are only extended but not modified after they've reached a stable state.
A system that i can update simply (or that supports auto updating without breaking anything that's written according to the api specs) which also updates some important libraries (like openssl, etc.), etc. independent of the applications and which does not require recompile of applications that use these libraries
A system where i can automate - by my own scripts or applications - nearly every aspect (given fine grained permissions) - for example having an easy way to write an application that enables / disables wireless LAN on estimated position determined via cellid, writing a sheduler that switches between silent/vibrating mode and an enabled bell, etc.
A feature like BSDs user mode architecture and API "emulation" would be nice (like implementing own binary image loaders in case a signature matches, having the ability to register own syscalls, etc.)
A system that has real multi user support and supports user switching without terminating another users processes (in case of being used on tablets)

advocatux

I run Debian in all the machines I can, so an ideal phone to me would be one running Debian.

Debian Social Contract and Debian Free Software Guidelines are core to me.

The second best option is an UBports phone really free. That means no Android apps and no Google's tracking among other things.

bluexxx

@mike
You have a simple microwave-broadband- measurement-device i have a professional device. It can measure magnetic fiels, electro magnetic fields and highfrequecy fields. I dont like explain a blind man the light. Thirst thinking then writing. It produce less stupid words.

advocatux

@bluexxx, if you want to be effective making your point it is not a good idea to call names. Also a personal experience is just that, something anecdotal.

It's better to link some scientifically sounded sources. I recommend for anyone interested in the topic of cell phones and cancer risk to read this fact sheet written by The US National Cancer Institute (NCI), the federal government's principal agency for cancer research and training.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/radiation/cell-phones-fact-sheet

Cheers

mike

@bluexxx
yea.... simple electromagnetic waves...in the older days people build antennas at home, from simple broadband-devices to magnetic loops for every frequency..but the radiodays are over now. . i like the grocery stores...there are a lot of ways to measure the same stuff So i found it great that you invest such a big money in special devices. and yes i am not so an expert as you .... and I never claimed to be a expert so i am exited to hear your expert-knowledge. that a blind man can see the light

HendriXXX

I want that mobile OS does what I want, whenever I want. I want it to be easy to modified my own liking without rooting. Of course it has to be secure and privacy friendly also. I don't wanna it tracking me all the time and knowing everything about me..

Most important apps/features to me are..

modern browser like Firefox
good email client to gmail
native hangouts, telegram clients
good navigation, online/offline
mobile hotspot
lightweight OS, simple but intuitive GUI
mobile data usagemonitor

Leppa

I'd like it to open, to be customized extensively. Swap kernels, colour schemes, layouts, binding, edit /system and such, and so on. Even be able to use my own graphical shell, should I want to.
I want it to be easy to develop for. In the long term, someone's going to have to make a fully-featured IDE for ubports.
I want it to be easily updateable. I don't want to be left on OTA-11 when OTA-14 exists. In a best-case scenario, if it comes down to it, I'd like to be able to just pull some files from my phone and build it with the new source to get a buggy, yet existing base to update with.
I know a lot of people here hate Google, but I personally love what they do and would like the option to use Google Services.

Locamama

FRENCH

Je trouve vos idée très bonnes et si les développeurs pouvaient justement travailler dessus se serait vraiment formidable. Dommage pour moi mais je n'arrive pas à le faire mais la communauté du libre fait de l’excellent travail.
Moi aussi j'aime bien le travail du monde Google, ils ont réussi à faire des logiciels pour tous (google photo, gmail, drive, transelat, etc.) d'ailleurs merci Google translate car je peux discuter avec vous car mon anglais n'est pas très bon.
VLC serait le bien venu ainsi que libreoffice (sur android il existe AndrOpen Office qui marche bien) un scanner (comme Camscanner sur Android). J'aime bien Chromium car j'ai tous mes favoris, mot de passe en un seul endroit ce qui me permet de les retrouver sur n'importe quel PC lorsque je me connecte.
Si non,non, excellent travail de l'équipe Ubports.
ENGLISH
I find your ideas very good and if the developers could just work on it would be really great. Too bad for me but I can not do it but the community of the free doing excellent work.
I also like the work of the Google world, they managed to make software for all (google photo, gmail, drive, transelat, etc.) besides thank you Google translate because I can chat with you because my English n Is not very good.
VLC would be welcome as well as freeoffice (on android there exists AndrOpen Office that works well) a scanner (like Camscanner on Android). I like Chromium because I have all my favorites, password in one place which allows me to find them on any PC when I connect.
If not, no, great work of the Ubports team.

Luis Fortanet

When I think what is important on a system mobile, I thinking in my basics needs but of a global way. It's important for growing as a mobile system, think in global people needs. (At least a sector of these type people). Good job friends!!!

Freedom to install Apps (Anbox could be a momentary answer on any main app.).
Stability and Velocity. (Has to be stable and friendly, without problems or lags when you use or open apps).
Security.(Control by the user).
An ecosistem very usebility and friendly in all aspects (install, updates OTA, system notifications, languages, possibility of change colors, icons, etc..).