Proposal for a Telegram Stickers Project
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Hi guys,
as a way to spread UT/UBports I think could be also useful to make more famous our logos/mascot to the world.
One of our main communication channel is based on telegram that is the perfect platform for some of our marketing purpose for various reasons:-
it is used on smartphonens
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it is supported on UT (thank you guys!)
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it is used by people prone to try something different even if it is (still) less used than whatsapp
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it has stickers
I started to make a little collection of yumi images based on this guideline and using telegram guidelines
Our current sticker pack has "only" 13 images so I tried to expand it (actually I've 35) and substitute some of them with new one, :
eg
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A more completed pack is more probable being used in our and other telegram channels spreading the world Yumi mascot and UBports logo.
So now I've some questions for the UBports Foundation:- Could this be useful for you?
- Am I infringing your trademark
- do I need an official approval?
- do I need only an official approval for the whole stickers pack or
- do I need an official approval for each sticker?
- do I need an official approval?
- do exist already a sticker project/place where I can contribute?
thank you!
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As an answer to a my ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything, Deep Thought suggested me to reach 42 stickers:
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Yes, I like it....Could be a good option.
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The Yumi mascot is licensed CC-BY-SA by Marius Gripsgard. As long as you are abiding by the license terms (also keep in mind the Ubuntu brand guidelines since the logo appears there), that robot is fair game.
You can create your own sticker packs using a Telegram bot. If you'd like to do that, I should be able to set the stickers as official for the UBports group.
Also paging @Krille, I think you were looking for some stickers for FluffyChat.
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@UniSuperBox so, other than an UBports official approval (in the sticker pack I don't think the CC-BY-SA licence and attribution is visible), have I to contact also the Canonical Ltd to use their logo the same way it is used by UBports Foundation in the mascot and mascot sticker (also without
symbol, so i would not completely adibing their trademark)?
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@Aury88 Good afternoon, I have been seeing your Telegram stickers, I see them very interesting, the drawings are very good, I see that you know how to use design programs, could we talk in Telegram? what chat are you in?
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Hi @Josele13,
I'm in:- UBports UX & Graphics
- UBports Supergroup
- Ubports ITALIANO
with the same username used in this forum.
But I'm not a pro. If you zoom the original svg you will probably find dozens of small error and inaccuracies. My luck is that the stickers are quite small so probably nobody will notice
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@Aury88 so here is the official answer:
- While the basic shape of Yumi is licensed CC-BY-SA by Marius, the embedded circle-of-friends logo is (c) by Canonical
- You have to look up yourself if it is free for private and intended use, I really don´t know this.
- In theory if it is not free you need a written permission by Canonical to stick it on Yumi.
- UBports has such an agreement and therefore we are fine
- You will not have to license every sticker of course.
So there are chances that you might be able to use the circle of friends for noncommerical use and it´s even in the context of our project. But nobody could tell what Canonical is up to and I would be careful asking them about such things
BR Florian
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@Flohack Thank you for the answer.
considering that nobody could tell what Canonical is up to with its trademark and that I prefer avoid all the canonical involvement and trademark implications now remain open only few possibilities:
A ) give all the pack to UBports Foundation (that will decide if and how to use them) so this remain inside the ubports agreements with canonical
B ) remove/substitute all the circle of friends from the stickers, infringing the Ubports mascot design guidelines but avoiding the canonical trademark implications.
C ) avoiding upload and use the stickers (for me it would not be a waste of time, I still enjoyed doing them)Even considering the circle of friend question resolved, the question with the ubports trademark on the rest of yumi remains open ... the cc-BY-SA references probably would be lost in a sticker pack unless we decide to insert the string " CC-BY-SA by Marius Gripsgård" in each sticker image or name in this way the sticker pack
but here it's quite late so I'll think about it after a good night's sleep
good night and sweet dreams.
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@Aury88 read this: https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy - I think you will find all answers and also maybe its a good idea to just ask them. If they never answer you have at least asked ^^
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@Flohack
done. Didn't expect was so easy to contact their IPRights Policy office.
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One point i want to add, is that we might want to remove the "Ubuntu logo" since for this exact reason we are limited. Things that we want to include yumi on might be approved each time, like if we want to have it on the pinephone for example. We also want to move into debian and other distros, so a removal of the logo would be a good move in my opinion.
Yumi itself can be used by anyone, that was one of the main point when it was made, but i see now adding the ubuntu logo was a mistake.
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Maybe time for a new design thread for a Yumi badge. If one is needed at all.
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@Lakotaubp UBports badge would be cool
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@mariogrip I already thought about that
this is my B plan (circle of friend substitution) with a my old symbol waiting for an UBports Foundation official logo to be selected
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@Aury88 Thought that might start some ideas off so started a new thread here https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2618/new-badge-for-yumi if you want to put ideas there. Have fun.
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I must sign a "Trademark Licence Agreement for Ubuntu" in order to use their logo in the sticker. But there are some points in it I don't understand.
for example:
"License grant. Canonical grants to you a non-exclusive licence to use the Trademark as described in Exhibit A to: (i) promote Ubuntu, (ii) participate in the Ubuntu community, or (iii) contribute to the Ubuntu community....."
but with the sticker I'm "promoting" another community/project independent from ubuntu"Restrictions. You may not do any of the following without Canonical's prior written consent: [...] use the Trademark in conjunction with any other name, word, logo, or symbol, (iii) ...."
so seems I can't use ubuntu logo in conjunction with the Yumi image ( it can be defined another logo, or symbol) until I ask (another) written consent"Trademark Statement. You agree to include the following disclaimer, or similar wording, where appropriate: “Ubuntu is a trademark of Canonical Limited and is used with the permission of Canonical Limited. We are not endorsed by or affiliated with Canonical Limited or the Ubuntu project."
that is impossible to do in the sticker packso I think it is a no-go for my use of ubuntu logo on the yumi sticker.
