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    • R
      rocket2nfinity last edited by

      Is videochat still broken in UT? It appears to be, but if not, then what apps/webapps/services work?

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      • AppLee
        AppLee @rocket2nfinity last edited by

        @rocket2nfinity
        Still not available.
        And I think you won't miss the news when it will be available.

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        • dobey
          dobey last edited by

          No, it is not broken, but one must create a native app to use it.

          It won't be usable in browser anytime soon, because QtWebEngine developers are not working on replacing the multimedia support and camera access from Chromium with QtMultimedia/QtCamera back-ends, and Android devices do not use v4l.

          However, assuming trust prompt support gets fixed for Wayland, and the browser asks for permissions to use camera/mic, then on devices using upstream Linux kernel such as Pinephone and Librem 5, should be able to have working video chat in browser, since those devices should expose the camera through v4l.

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          • R
            rocket2nfinity @dobey last edited by

            @dobey Any apps currently functional for any social media?

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            • ImmyChan
              ImmyChan @rocket2nfinity last edited by

              @rocket2nfinity Depends what you mean by "functional for any social media"

              If you mean to browse social media generally then there are lots of great apps, I for example use uMastonauts for Mastodon and Pesbuk for those rare times I need Facebook, there are many more apps than that of course

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              • R
                rocket2nfinity @ImmyChan last edited by

                @ImmyChan I mean specifically functioning videochat

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                • AppLee
                  AppLee @rocket2nfinity last edited by

                  @rocket2nfinity
                  No webapp is able to access the camera as Dobey just explained.

                  In a possible future, something might work,

                  assuming trust prompt support gets fixed for Wayland, and the browser asks for permissions to use camera/mic

                  And it will only be for devices using upstream kernel and camera exposed as V4L.

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                  • Josele13
                    Josele13 last edited by Josele13

                    Is there a possible solution for devices using android drivers?

                    regards....

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                    • AppLee
                      AppLee @Josele13 last edited by

                      @Josele13
                      Yes, to create a native app.

                      And that's not an easy task. Contributors are welcome to help add this feature to Fluffychat or Teleports 😉

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                      • Josele13
                        Josele13 @AppLee last edited by Josele13

                        @AppLee Fluffychat is an option, in Telegram you can not because it does not allow video calls, you can send a short video recording,

                        thank you very much...

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                          rocket2nfinity @AppLee last edited by

                          @AppLee Above my digital paygrade. But, I can contribute $ to a pool to hire someone who can....

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                          • poVoq
                            poVoq last edited by

                            FluffyChat aka Matrix is probably not possible either as Matrix just wraps Jitsi Meet and that is a WebRTC app.

                            I think the easiest would be to port the Mumble app. It is already made in desktop qt5 and uses native but audio only communication.

                            But how about Anbox? Does it allow camera access?

                            OnePlus3 (dev)

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                            • AppLee
                              AppLee @poVoq last edited by

                              @poVoq said in Status of videochat in UT:

                              But how about Anbox? Does it allow camera access?

                              AFAIK Anbox has only access to the network.
                              I don't know how we could translate and toggle permissions from android to UT ; I don't think this is possible.

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                              • dobey
                                dobey @poVoq last edited by

                                @poVoq said in Status of videochat in UT:

                                FluffyChat aka Matrix is probably not possible either as Matrix just wraps Jitsi Meet and that is a WebRTC app.

                                WebRTC is only a protocol. It does not necessarily require a browser to implement it.

                                @poVoq said in Status of videochat in UT:

                                But how about Anbox? Does it allow camera access?

                                No, it cannot access camera or mic, and is not hardware accelerated. And nobody is currently working on this either.

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                                • R
                                  rocket2nfinity last edited by

                                  I'm curious, could libertine be used to provide V4L and camera access?

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                                  • dobey
                                    dobey @rocket2nfinity last edited by

                                    @rocket2nfinity said in Status of videochat in UT:

                                    I'm curious, could libertine be used to provide V4L and camera access?

                                    No. Libertine is not a VM. It doesn't change how the drivers work, nor device access. On Android based devices, camera access must go through the HAL.

                                    One could theoretically build a tool to translate v4l access through the Android HAL, but it would be a significant amount of work, may affect performance, and is fairly complex. I don't think anyone is working on such a thing.

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                                      rocket2nfinity last edited by

                                      Maybe some of these ideas will help?

                                      https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=209121

                                      https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/droidcam/

                                      Apparently there is a group already working on a solution to access the camera from the android HAL and present it to Linux:

                                      "provides a set of interfaces to libcamera for existing applications; they will include a V4L compatibility layer, an Android HAL interface, and a GStreamer interface. The intent is to make libcamera suitable for all Linux-based devices." https://lwn.net/Articles/794555/

                                      https://libcamera.org/docs.html

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