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    Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]

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        domubpkm @Moem
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        @Moem I like it but, my first impression that came to me, is that it looks a bit like a bluetooth indicator... Another blue color maybe?

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          Moem @domubpkm
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          @domubpkm It could be darker. Would that help?

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            3T_Ed @Moem
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            @Moem said in [Request] [Solutions] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:

            When I see ICE without context, the first thing I think of is the German fast train.

            :grinning_face_with_sweat:

            How about a the combination of red(-cross/SOS), white star of life and esculape like this one?

            https://www.freeiconspng.com/img/27567

            Can't be confused with Bluetooth symbol and can be used in every country, regardless of religion symbolism.

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              Rondarius @Moem
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              @Moem no not darker, the greater contrast to the black background the better. There isn't much color in the indicator bar, just the green envelop, when you recieve a message. The more the icon stands out the better.

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                Moem @3T_Ed
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                @3T_Ed I like that, but we'd need it in a style that's more consistent with current indicators.
                Maybe like so?

                UTstaroflife_mockup_red.png

                Then again, it's really a lot more universally known in blue.

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                  domubpkm @Moem
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                  @Moem Just for color inspiration, i found it there :
                  https://fr.stockfresh.com/image/3118054/medical-symbol

                  **Carreful, it is said for this link in morph-browser that the certificate is not approved !) **

                  3118054_stock-photo-medical-symbol.jpg

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                    Moem @domubpkm
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                    @domubpkm The thing is, if you make the blue lighter, the snake-and-staff symbol gets harder to see, because the contrast between the blue and the white goes down.
                    As for the contrast with the background, that is what the white edge is for. So maybe it should be a little bit thicker, like below.

                    All in all I'm going to stick with my proposal:

                    UTstaroflife2.png

                    If you disagree, that is fine. Let's see your proposal. :smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                      Rondarius @Moem
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                      @Moem I have been looking around a little and I don't know if there is a right or wrong way. I have seen icons with red cross white symbols/letters, blue cross white symbols/letters even an icon with white cross and black snake/staff, But it seems to me that the most common way is red cross with white snake/staff. I'm able to talk with some paramedics on monday and ask them if they have an idea of how the symbol could look like.

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                        Moem @Rondarius
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                        @Rondarius said in [Request] [Solutions] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:

                        I'm able to talk with some paramedics on monday and ask them if they have an idea of how the symbol could look like.

                        That's great! In which country? I'm sure that makes a difference. Here in the Netherlands, there is a big blue Star of Life on every ambulance.

                        If i do a search for 'star of life', as a result I get a wall of blue.
                        If I search for the generic term 'emergency symbol', I get mostly red and mostly crosses, not stars. Of course, the red cross on white can't be used. And a white cross on red needs some indication that it's not the Swiss flag.

                        Sometimes the crosses are combined with snake and staff. But most of the snake-and-staff symbols I find are combined with a star, not a cross. And they're usually blue.

                        Anyway, I've said all I needed to say. I'm sure the maker of the app will be able to pick something good.

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                          Rondarius @Moem
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                          @Moem I live in Sweden and we have the same blue symbol on our ambulances. I check with the paramedics on monday then😊👍

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                            flohack
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                            Hi there,

                            some words on that from the core team:

                            • Adding a colored icon like this to the indicator bar will break the style that we try to keep consistent for system-realated things. So this wont be acceptable at all for taking it into the main OS
                            • Even if we would accept it, its much too small. Somebody who does not know ,Ubuntu Touch and that is the majority of the ppl on the planet will never ever figure out that they can find ICE contacts and infos there.
                            • Why don´t you use the free space below the circle for that:
                              7bfcfd22-6d60-49df-8a53-100e3457e8f9-grafik.png
                            • Yes, that change involves hacking into Lomiri quite a bit, but it is not that complicated. And then add it to the system settings for configuration.
                            • In this position the icon can be colorful, and big enough so ppl recognize it.
                            • If you want to align design ideas with the core team, please ping @CiberSheep for that, he is always a friendly sheep 🙂

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                              AppLee @Moem
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                              @Moem
                              I agree with Florian, that the best option is to modify the lock screen.

                              But as a workaround if it's faster to go with the dropdown menu, I suggest a simple white over black symbol.
                              Letters, snake and staff will be too small to identify, so a simple cross-of-life will work.

                              As the dropdown menu loads a full page, it's doable to add a bigger logo with clearly stated "In Case of Emergency".

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                                Rondarius
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                                I don't know if I stepped on someones toes here but I just sent an email to EMS and asked them if they where interested in making a new symbol for ICE on mobile phones.

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                                  syper
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                                  I take a few minutes to answer you because I receive notification number: D

                                  So I repeat my idea is to actually add a button to the lockscreen (it's doable but requires a little hack of it ...)
                                  I will also change the icons, the main one will remain white for ergonomic reasons but it will be positioned first!

                                  Unfortunately I haven't had the time to take a look since my publication, I have a lot of work at the moment sorry.
                                  On the other hand if someone knows the python he can possibly contribute ...

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                                    Keneda @flohack
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                                    @Flohack said in [Request] [Solutions] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:

                                    Yes, that change involves hacking into Lomiri quite a bit, but it is not that complicated. And then add it to the system settings for configuration.

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                                      PhoenixLandPirat @flohack
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                                      @Flohack the welcome screen has to be broken to implement notifications on the lock screen anyways, so why not implement it as an optional “always on” notification and kill 2 stones in one?

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                                        flohack @PhoenixLandPirat
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                                        @PhoenixLandPirat Notifications on the lock screen? Not sure I can follow ^^

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                                          Rondarius
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                                          Hi
                                          I have talked to the manager for the paramedics in my town today. He was very positive to the ICE contact integration on our operating system and that we was so devoted to have an unified icon for it. But the only suggestion he had was the “Star of Life”. So I will post here again when or if I get a response from EMS/NHTSA.

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                                            3T_Ed
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                                            @syper

                                            The ICE app requires all permissions. Currently I don't see the need for that since the users fill out their information manually.

                                            It could be due to the fact that the app is using the top bar that requires all permissions, if so a heads up in the app description would be helpful. Needless to say that if this app is to become/considered to be amongst future default apps in UT, AppArmor confined status is required, hopefully you'll be able to achieve just that in the foreseeable future.

                                            Looking forward to seeing some development, quite a few users have shown their commitment to think along to make this app a success.

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                                              3T_Ed
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                                              @Rondarius said in [Request] [Solutions] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:

                                              Hi
                                              I have talked to the manager for the paramedics in my town today. He was very positive to the ICE contact integration on our operating system and that we was so devoted to have an unified icon for it. But the only suggestion he had was the “Star of Life”. So I will post here again when or if I get a response from EMS/NHTSA.

                                              Thank you for taking the time to talk to the manager, sounds like we're on the right track regarding the logo.

                                              It would be nice to have that response from EMS/NHTSA to get a definite idea of how it should be designed best so we can get to a consensus and move forward 'molding' the app for @syper to have an easier implementation of a well thought out format.

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