OTA 3 suggestions: your wanted features

hans1977se · 3 Sept 2017, 06:35

@guru I hope you'll find something. Closest i found is apps can force the phone to stay fully on, but then power management becomes manual.

Vehi_MV · 3 Sept 2017, 07:04

I would like to see bluteooth getting some attention, so we could use the phone for calls in our cars.
Thank you.

guru · 3 Sept 2017, 07:48

@hans1977se said in OTA 3 suggestions: your wanted features:

@guru I hope you'll find something. Closest i found is apps can force the phone to stay fully on, but then power management becomes manual.

It took me some time, but here we go: You can check on the cmd line which apps are excepted from getting the suspend signal if not on display with the following command (which shows the app names in my BQ E4.5, running Canonical's OTA-15):

gsettings get com.canonical.qtmir lifecycle-exempt-appids
['com.ubuntu.music', 'com.ubuntu.terminal', 'webbrowser-app', 'dekko.dekkoproject', 'mediaplayer-app']

and you can add some app identifier (as I did long ago) with:

gsettings set com.canonical.qtmir lifecycle-exempt-appids "['com.ubuntu.music', 'com.ubuntu.terminal']"

It seems to me, that the display server MIR is sending the suspend signal to all other app loosing the display by being slided away.

matthias

RandomUser · 3 Sept 2017, 08:47

An adblocker in the webbrowser is something I really miss.

Vehi_MV · 3 Sept 2017, 09:00

@RandomUser
This would be nice yes. At the moment I use hosts file from here: http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ and It's doing a great job keeping ads away.

guru · 3 Sept 2017, 09:41

@Vehi_MV said in OTA 3 suggestions: your wanted features:

@RandomUser
This would be nice yes. At the moment I use hosts file from here: http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ and It's doing a great job keeping ads away.

Do you have this as /etc/hosts ? This is a ro file system...

Swisskoala · 3 Sept 2017, 10:25

Hi, I think that there is still some work to do on bugfixing iso new features. Using a Meizu mx4 I still have to restart once or twice a day cos of the battery indicator showing empty although it is almost full, the webbrowser doesn't show html5 videos, cannot use telegram on all public networks eg. Airport freeweb, and in general smoothness of the OS; too often it got stuck when changing apps if swiping from right to left...nevertheless, I do not want to go back to any other OS and appreciate the hard work!!

Vehi_MV · 3 Sept 2017, 11:15

@guru

You can make the file system writable with UT Tweak Tool: https://uappexplorer.com/app/ut-tweak-tool.sverzegnassi .
Reboot
Then you make a backup of original /etc/hosts file
Copy your new hosts file to /etc/hosts
Make file system read only with UT Tweak Tool
Reboot
Enjoy ad-free experience on your phone.

guru · 3 Sept 2017, 11:38

@Vehi_MV To make a fs rw I do not need some tool apart of mount, but I always, since the beginnung of UT, I said it is no a good idea making this partitions rw. How OTA should work on such modifications?
You have been warned.

RudiH · 3 Sept 2017, 11:53

I think, it's still needed to inproof the core-apps:
Bluetooth needs to work better with other devices. In my case: Meizu MX4 can connect to NAVIGON 70pro car-navigation, but can't make calls with it and other functions don't work.
Camera app has very low qualitiy and some settings don't work together. If I turn HDR on, then flashlight gets off, and so on.
Music app should be more comfortable and start faster. Sometimes stops playing without reason.

Mitu · 3 Sept 2017, 12:19

The most important for me are the fixes for Meizu Pro 5 - I have reported a few bugs related to this device and those bugs are making my phone not fully reliable (and it's important for me, as Pro 5 is my daily driver).

Other than that:

T9 dialer
Custom SMS sound
Possibly per-app notification sound (so that Dekko/Telegram notification sound can be different from the SMS one)
How about listing mediahub apps in sound indicator? It could list the apps, but hide the control buttons where no app is open. When you open the app, it could jump to the top of the list and display the controls.
System/OpenStore app updates using the transfer indicator, so that they could be downloaded and installed in background and multiple ones simultaneously.

doniks · 9 Mar 2017, 14:21

Pick one (any) convergent user story and make it a perfect experience out of the box.

For example: I receive an email from a coworker asking me to work on some spreadsheet. Dock phone and work desktop style, listening to music on my headphones. Realise I miss some info. Text another person with a question. Receive a phone call interupting me. Take the phone out of the dock and talk while I walk to the coffee shop. End the call and finish the spreadsheet on the phone/tablet interface in the coffee shop. Email the file back.

All those features are kinda there, but there are a bunch of usability features that kill this (and similar) workflows. I would suggest you draft a story like this, then test it and prioritise any bugs you run into. Docking ain't reliable - fix this. Email app closes and interrupts my drafting when switching to browser /spreadsheet - fix that. Out of the box UI scaling for localc doesn't allow me to work efficiently on a tablet display - fix it.

No need to make everything perfect, but pick one story and maybe one device and make that one really shine. If it ain't the "mobile office work" above it could be the visual artist - now you need to make sure that krita works perfectly on the tablet - does taht require better touch input in xmir well then this is your top prio feature. Or maybe its wayland on mir. The user is not gonna care as long as the workflow is awesome.

Pick a story that is achievable, but sets ubports apart from ios/android. Getting krita to run is too hard - what about preparing, adjusting and giving a presentation from the phone including live pdf annotation xournal style.

Make sure to produce a release video that shows off! Focus on the added value for the user instead of the technical feature of how you adjusted the dpi for Xmir or whatever.

SweDennis · 3 Sept 2017, 15:52

I think wireless display / aethercast for fairphone 2, because it hasn't hdmi/slimport/MHL... It would be a great feature for all devices of course.

hans1977se · 3 Sept 2017, 16:00

@guru said in OTA 3 suggestions: your wanted features:

It took me some time, but here we go: You can check on the cmd line which apps are excepted from getting the suspend signal if not on display with the following command (which shows the app names in my BQ E4.5, running Canonical's OTA-15):
gsettings get com.canonical.qtmir lifecycle-exempt-appids
['com.ubuntu.music', 'com.ubuntu.terminal', 'webbrowser-app', 'dekko.dekkoproject', 'mediaplayer-app']
and you can add some app identifier (as I did long ago) with:
gsettings set com.canonical.qtmir lifecycle-exempt-appids "['com.ubuntu.music', 'com.ubuntu.terminal']"
It seems to me, that the display server MIR is sending the suspend signal to all other app loosing the display by being slided away.
matthias

This way, will the app consume more power when it is not doing anything as well? Will it still suspend when i press the button, or will i have to remember to quit the app before suspending?

Stefano · 3 Sept 2017, 16:13

Maybe just to focus on bugfixes? The list is growing steadily and this should be dealt with as a priority. In the end we want a stable OS, that can be showcased, presented...would attract more users if Ubports stable is rock solid.

guru · 3 Sept 2017, 18:20

@hans1977se I can't answer this with 100% sure. I think that apps which are not doing anything will not consume power. I see, when I listen some livestream in a browser and have Dekko running on display, that after some time the devices goes black, but the stream continues playing.

UKPhil · 9 Apr 2017, 04:39

I would like to see the following:

E4.5 & 5 in core devices, as stated due to the numbers out there

Greater Dekko support and development as this is the only multi-client email app out there. E.g. being able to send from Office 360 accounts, being able to set up Proton Mail accounts, email displays for Facebook emails…

Ability to close the phone down without it rebooting

Browser development e.g. only your last 8 (ish) tabs are restored on boot-up

The ability to use Hangouts and/or skype to make video calls where you do not have to tilt your head

Telegram to stop flashing the indicator light, when you have viewed the message on another device.

Greater freedom around themes and the front lock screen

For the lock screen to auto rotate.

Being able to have sound coming from both the device and the connected Bluetooth speakers

Dare I say it (wait for the backlash lol) a way to use Whatsapp

Last but not lease, the ability to dual boot...

UKPhil · 4 Sept 2017, 04:31

The above list I have added is on top of all the current outstanding bugs to be fixed. If the majority of them are not fixed, there is not much point thinking about new features, when the platform we are building on is not stable.

WLBI · 4 Sept 2017, 04:46

@mariogrip
Why implementing new features in OTA3?
Maybe it's better investing your development energy to Xenial, as it was already working on my M10 FHD in March 2017, developed by Canonical. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irCIUkVK4U&t=970s

Bastos · 4 Sept 2017, 06:47

@Vehi_MV said in OTA 3 suggestions: your wanted features:

I would like to see bluteooth getting some attention, so we could use the phone for calls in our cars.
Thank you.

+1