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How safe is UT from trackers?

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      AntiDroid
      last edited by 7 Mar 2021, 19:11

      Has anyone read the piece on tuxphones.com about Anonymity vs Privacy. I feel it is relevant to this thread because the two concepts are often referred to interchangeably but offer very different things.

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        AppLee @Keneda
        last edited by 7 Mar 2021, 19:29

        @keneda
        It depends. It is easy enough for me to create my own as I have clickable already installed and configured.
        If I didn't I would certainly use webber for example.

        I personally find that there are too many webapps in the open-store.
        So when I make my own I do not publish it.

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          Keneda @AppLee
          last edited by Keneda 3 Jul 2021, 19:39 7 Mar 2021, 19:37

          @applee said in How safe is UT from trackers?:

          I personally find that there are too many webapps in the open-store.

          That's not there are too many, that's there are too many that no longer works... ^^
          But i agree with you, if everyone puts its own webapp that would be the jungle.

          Today i searched for playstation webapp, i found one, then i clicked on publisher :
          https://open-store.io/?sort=relevance&search=author%3Amar_k83
          Most of them marked not functionning in coms, for sure it is 2 years old and for 15.04.

          Those deprecated webapps (i mean, not only in this link) is not a good thing for openstore user experience.

          2015-2023 : Meizu MX4 ☠️⚰️✝️
          2023-2024 : Nexus 5 ☠️⚰️✝️
          2024-***** : FPOS Fairphone 5 waiting UT for freedom 😉
          🇲🇫🇬🇧

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            TotalSonic @Keneda
            last edited by 7 Mar 2021, 21:04

            In partial answer to this question - here's the results of the security test at https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/ for all of the different browsers I have on my Volla Phone, with uAdBlock enabled.

            Morph browser ->
            Morph

            Firefox-esr 78 running in Libertine container ->
            Firefox

            Roadtrip (alternative QtWebEngine based browser demo from Mateo Salta) ->
            Roadtrip

            Onion (interestingly this one performed the worst in this test, despite being based on Tor, and supposedly providing enhanced security) ->
            Onion

            Best regards,
            Steve Berson

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              3T_Ed @TotalSonic
              last edited by 7 Mar 2021, 21:11

              @totalsonic

              OnePlus 3T + Morph Browser
              screenshot20210307_220952132.png

              Critics are the true Positives | OnePlus 3T, Lumia 950

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                mateo_salta @3T_Ed
                last edited by 19 Mar 2021, 08:01

                @3t_ed there are a bunch of qtwebengine flags we can use to reduce fingerprinting

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                  AdLinux
                  last edited by 28 Mar 2021, 18:36

                  I think there might be a discrepancy between different devices when it comes to the effectiveness of uAdBlock.

                  A lot of people have posted screenshots from their phones of the EFF's 'Cover Your Tracks' showing Morph blocking trackers (with the help of uAdBlock). However, I am having no such luck on my Sony Xperia 10.

                  Here are my screenshots (well they would be screenshots but instead they are photos, as the current build for the Xperia 10 doesn't seem to have MTP working yet).

                  Morph with uAdBlock:
                  CoverYourTracksMorphXperia10.jpg

                  Onion with uAdBlock:
                  CoverYourTracksOnionXperia10.jpg

                  Does anyone have any ideas as to why there is this discrepancy? Or how it could be solved?

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                    AntiDroid @AdLinux
                    last edited by 28 Mar 2021, 19:36

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                      TotalSonic @AdLinux
                      last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 10:08

                      @adlinux - yes, in retesting I am now getting the same results as you!! - not sure what is going on with this - but it is concerning.

                      Best regards,
                      Steve Berson

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                        domubpkm @TotalSonic
                        last edited by domubpkm 29 Mar 2021, 14:16

                        @totalsonic I think your uAdBlock is fully disabled even if you think it is activated and shows lists.
                        It can be the case for an OTA update or if you change of channel.
                        So first do 'deactivate uAdBlock' and then reactivate it: personally I check all the lists.
                        But it's right that for the Volla, we have always a NEARLY-unique fingerprint : i don't like this word nearly. This word is too much 😒
                        @mateo_salta Why did you remove demo browser from the Open Store? Improving it would have been nice but it still has some use as it is for testing I think. Demo browser as a UNIQUE fingerprint!! 😉☺

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                          Moem @domubpkm
                          last edited by 29 Mar 2021, 15:32

                          @domubpkm said in How safe is UT from trackers?:

                          I think your uAdBlock is fully disabled even if you think it is activated and shows lists.
                          It can be the case for an OTA update or if you change of channel.

                          Thank you for this, I had no idea!

                          Is currently using an Op5t
                          Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                            domubpkm @domubpkm
                            last edited by 24 May 2021, 13:19

                            @domubpkm said in How safe is UT from trackers?:

                            @mateo_salta Why did you remove demo browser from the Open Store? Improving it would have been nice but it still has some use as it is for testing.

                            Demo browser is back in the Open Store today. Thanks @mateo_salta .

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