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    [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE

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        Yoni @c4pp4
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        @c4pp4
        It just doesn't make sense. Could there be a script that turns it back on when you lock the phone?

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          c4pp4 @Yoni
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          @yoni I'm not expert but I can imagine ubuntu system don't turn off cellular data on android side, so there is no connection within ubuntu, but there is connection in android layer.

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            domubpkm @c4pp4
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            @c4pp4 I'm not an expert too but maybe a total reflash (wipe option) of the smartphone and a reinstallation on a totally clean base would help so as to confirm or not your problem. In any case, in my case I had to do this several times and it solved some instabilities.

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              Yoni @c4pp4
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              @c4pp4
              It definitely turns the data connection off, and it is visible when I checked it with a RF meter.
              Data on (4G):
              UT 4G Data On.JPG
              Data off (4G):
              UT 4G Data Off.JPG
              And it is the reduced transmitions that saves the battery, so your situation does not make sense.

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                AppLee @Yoni
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                @yoni
                Without the full picture it's hard to judge what makes sense or not.
                The radio is not the only power consumer.
                Depending on the device and the firmware used the behavior can differ.

                Maybe a process is looping to find the modem and prevent the CPU to sleep.
                Maybe also c4pp4's theory is right ; if on Ubuntu Touch's side we kill the data it doesn't kill the modem because you need calls and SMS.
                So depending on vendor's firmware and specific port implementation experience may vary.
                In a port I suppose that turning off the data can be implemented in several different ways with slightly different behaviors.

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                  Yoni @AppLee
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                  @applee
                  Those graphs represent RF activity with and without the data connection, so calls and texts are still available in both scenarios, and on the mi A2 the battery lasted 4 times longer when just the data is turned off, and this principle is the same on Androids and iPhones, but at different battery savings levels.
                  There might be something that is causing the cpu to constantly work, thus preventing battery savings, but UT definitely has control over the data connectivity, and it does turn it off.

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                    AppLee @Yoni
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                    @yoni
                    What I meant is unless you can produce the same graph with C4pp4's device you cannot draw any conclusion on what happens.
                    If it's the same model it would be really strange.
                    But with another device it's a whole different story.
                    No data received by the user (Morph or Teleports for example) does not mean the modem is not working way more than expected.

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                      Yoni @AppLee
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                      @applee
                      Both myself and @c4pp4 are using the same device, and @domubpkm also had battery savings using a Volla, there is something starnge happening with c4ppa's phone, and I'm really trying to understand why he is not getting any savings on 4G.

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                        domubpkm
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                        Redownload mms mecanism works fine on Volla RC 43 : for this feature, thanks to @jezek and @lduboeuf as it is a very usefull nechanism to save battery too !

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                          Bolly
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                          Hello @c4pp4,

                          Thank you for the scripts. ♥
                          I found out that if the device doesn't have 4G you have to put "umts" in "primary_preference". (My device is e4.5 - Krillin - )

                          primary_preference="umts"

                          I've taken the liberty of sharing your scripts on my blog to reach more people, I hope you don't mind.

                          https://elcondonrotodegnu.wordpress.com/2022/04/25/scripts-para-ahorrar-bateria-en-ubuntu-touch/

                          Thanks again. 🙂

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                          2020-Now : PinePhone Braveheart & CE UBports
                          2020-Now (Family/Daily use): Vollaphone Xenial
                          2022-Now (Family/Daily use): Vollaphone 22 Focal

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                            prog-amateur @Yoni
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                            Hello @c4pp4 thank you VE-RY much for your script. Please, could you edit your 1st post just to inform about the following ?

                            -> Final step : Reboot the phone

                            Reason : I have done the script II and I could not come back to 4G (2G was OK), so I have used the "lte" modification in the script without success. Then I have reboot my phone and the script was working perfectly.

                            @yoni said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

                            Here are the battery tests, starting with 4G with data on:
                            badtest.JPG
                            2G with data on:
                            2gbatest.JPG

                            When I see you plots without / with script, it is a day and night ! My Nexus 5 has a battery drain (or the battery is not enough powerful), I just installed the script so I lack of time to feedback but I hope results like yours, it would be wonderful.

                            Again, thank you very much for your kind help, such a topic shall be pinned I think.

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                              c4pp4 @prog-amateur
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                              @prog-amateur said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

                              I have used the "lte" modification in the script without success. Then I have reboot my phone and the script was working perfectly.

                              Thank you for the report, you have to use "restart lte-battery-saver" to apply script changes. I will add a note about it. It looks like "lte" is more generic then "any" so I'll change the script.

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                                lkroll
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                                Battery drain on standby with 4G is still a problem on focal, so I updated the script and created a small systemd service to automatically run the script at startup. Maybe this will be useful for some.


                                The greeter in focal is called "com.lomiri.LomiriGreeter" instead of "com.canonical.UnityGreeter". So i changed that in the script and tested that it indeed still works.

                                I placed the updated script in:
                                /home/phablet/.local/bin

                                #!/bin/bash
                                
                                primary_preference="lte"
                                saving_preference="gsm"
                                sim_slot="/ril_0"
                                
                                interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties
                                member=PropertiesChanged
                                
                                dbus-monitor --session "type=signal,interface='${interface}',member='${member}'" |
                                while read -r line; do
                                        if [[ ${line} == *"com.lomiri.LomiriGreeter"* ]]; then
                                                read; read; read -r line
                                                if [[ ${line} == *"IsActive"* ]]; then
                                                        read -r line
                                                        [[ ${line} == *"true"* ]] && /usr/share/ofono/scripts/set-tech-preference "${sim_slot}" "${saving_preference}" 1>/dev/null
                                                        [[ ${line} == *"false"* ]] && /usr/share/ofono/scripts/set-tech-preference "${sim_slot}" "${primary_preference}" 1>/dev/null
                                                fi
                                        fi
                                done
                                

                                Don't forget to make it executable:

                                chmod u+x /home/phablet/.local/bin/lte-battery-saver.sh
                                

                                Ubuntu 20.04 uses systemd instead of upstart so I created a systemd user service in:
                                /home/phablet/.config/systemd/user/lte-battery-saver.service

                                [Unit]
                                Description=LTE battery saver
                                Requires=dbus.socket
                                After=dbus.socket
                                
                                [Service]
                                ExecStart=/home/phablet/.local/bin/lte-battery-saver.sh
                                
                                [Install]
                                WantedBy=dbus.socket
                                

                                Now to enable the service:

                                systemctl --user enable --now lte-battery-saver
                                

                                Verify that it is running and up:

                                systemctl --user status lte-battery-saver
                                

                                It should return active and enabled:

                                ● lte-battery-saver.service - LTE battery saver
                                     Loaded: loaded (/home/phablet/.config/systemd/user/lte-battery-saver.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
                                     Active: active (running) since Sat 2023-04-29 18:44:27 CEST; 1h 11min ago
                                

                                That's it, now everytime the phone is locked the connection will drop to 2G and back to 4G/LTE once unlocked.
                                I tested and verified it on my Oneplus 5T, but it should work on other devices running focal.

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                                  lduboeuf
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                                  [ Focal only ]
                                  If anyone want my dirty hack ( when cellular data off -> then use 2G , when data on -> switch to LTE)

                                  You must have a focal device on devel channel, then sudo ubports-qa install focal_-_PR_lomiri-system-settings-cellular_6

                                  This will auto toggle LTE when cellular data requested , and back to 2G when off,
                                  https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/lomiri-system-settings-cellular/-/merge_requests/6

                                  ( only work when toggled from the settings, not the indicator )

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                                    AmauryDBZ @lduboeuf
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                                    @lduboeuf thanks for your 'dirty hack' !
                                    after installing it says I have to upgrade, but sudo apt upgrade returns

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                                    Any idea how to resolve ?
                                    Moreover, is it possible to add an exception when hotspot is on ?

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                                      lduboeuf @AmauryDBZ
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                                      @AmauryDBZ said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

                                      @lduboeuf thanks for your 'dirty hack' !
                                      after installing it says I have to upgrade, but sudo apt upgrade returns

                                      Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait            
                                      Construction de l'arbre des dépendances          
                                      Lecture des informations d'état... Fait          
                                      Calcul de la mise à jour... Fait                 
                                      Get more security updates through Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled:                             
                                        libswresample3 libmediainfo0v5 libavcodec58 libavutil56 libopenexr24                            
                                        libsdl2-2.0-0                                  
                                      Learn more about Ubuntu Pro at https://ubuntu.com/pro                                             
                                      W: Verrou non utilisé pour le fichier /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend en lecture seule                
                                      W: Verrou non utilisé pour le fichier /var/lib/dpkg/lock en lecture seule                         
                                      E: Le répertoire d'archive /var/cache/apt/archives/partial n'existe pas. - Acquire (30: Read-only file system)
                                      

                                      Any idea how to resolve ?
                                      Moreover, is it possible to add an exception when hotspot is on ?

                                      Well, your device must be up to date before doing any ubports-qa things.
                                      You can either reinstall UT or go by mouting rw the partition and then upgrade.

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                                        AmauryDBZ @lduboeuf
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                                        @lduboeuf said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

                                        by mouting rw the partition and then upgrade.

                                        do you have a tutorial ?

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                                          lduboeuf @AmauryDBZ
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                                          @AmauryDBZ said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

                                          @lduboeuf said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

                                          by mouting rw the partition and then upgrade.

                                          do you have a tutorial ?

                                          Well, if you ask, maybe you don't know the possible consequences ?
                                          If ok then remount rw the partition: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
                                          then sudo apt upgrade

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                                            AmauryDBZ @lduboeuf
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                                            @lduboeuf you're right I have no idea of what consequence it could have ! Thanks for your help !

                                            To come back on the subject of this topic, would it be possible to add an exception when the hotspot is activated ?

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                                              lduboeuf @AmauryDBZ
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                                              @AmauryDBZ said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

                                              @lduboeuf you're right I have no idea of what consequence it could have ! Thanks for your help !

                                              To come back on the subject of this topic, would it be possible to add an exception when the hotspot is activated ?

                                              Humm, what would be the bahavior for hotspot, if enable then auto switch to 4G ?

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