After 5 month..why I swap back to Android...
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why I swap back to Android:
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I still missing the fingerprint sensor, It's nice to have on some apps or for unlock your phone.
O.K., also on Android you often have the problem that the print sensor doesnt accept your dirty
hands, but still missing it -
Had many issues with the cam app, often could not shot a photo when I was in the very need of it,
was not able to save the photo, the ring turned around in the upper corner or I sometimes
had a right problem with the cam and had to restart the whole phone -
Often had a restart of unity, when I was in the use of the phone, I was swipping with the finger
the screen freezes and unity restarted, that was a mess, so also Waydroid was shut down -
Had problems with the podbird or podphoenix app, when I was switching from phone port to usb audio
and backwards, the app volume went lower by every switch between bluetooth and headset -
had ofter problems with the network settings, sometimes Wifi-Network was not available or did not
shown up -
I still can't use copy/paste in waydroid, no workaround was a solution for me
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after a some time I was not able to use Whatsapp in Waydroid anymore, because Whatsapp
tolt me, that I'm using a custom rom, and Whatsapp wasn't anymore able to be installable on
the Waydroid Android, so I had to use a second phone(Android) over the Hospot, puuhhhh...
using the whats-app-web app was no solution for me -
many of my problems have not been resolved after this 5 month of usage
so maybe I will come back, will buy another test phone or will use my Fairphone 3 again, when I turn to the next phone, which will be in the next years...so long, bye bye
btw.: Ubtouch is no bad thing, but is still for experimental
a big thanks to all the developer!!!Fairphone 3+
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@picrard Why not buy a cheap/ "for parts or not working" device for playing with UT? I recommend the OPO5 or 6.
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@mrt10001 said in After 5 month..why I swap back to Android...:
for playing with UT
You personally really like to 'play', experiment and test with your smartphones, I believe. But many users only have one smartphone and therefore they only want stability and reliability which will be even less guaranteed for quite a while with UT 20.04, which is just a normal process but which will inevitably disturb .. Because for 16.04, the bugs will probably no longer be corrected on all smartphones (and if I am wrong, so much the better!). Personally, I have great stability now with my Volla under 16.04, but the day I go under 20.04, it will downgrade for quite a while I think...
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@domubpkm Play is a loose term. I fix, rehabilitate, refurbish, whatever you call it, PC's, laptops, tablets and phones (and anything electrical and electronic). Was part job/hobby, but due to recent events, I keep it as a hobby (thank you Covid lockdowns). UT is a rejuvenating fresh operating system for older devices. Does for me what a mobile OS on a tablet or phone needs.
I can buy a smartphone from many places that can cost as little as £3 (UK) broken to £££'s depending on the viability of repair, refurbishment. A £10 Motorola G1 will do the basics and some, comparing it to a £1400 iPhone 14, I know what I would buy and it won't be an Apple product, my opinion.If you want to spend £400+ on a Fairphone, VollaPhone that's fine in my eyes, but again, I wouldn't do it for a daily driver. But a second hand Redmi Note 7 for less than £70 is worth the investment and as a daily driver for the basics - Phone, Text, Camera and Internet it works for me and works really well on Ubuntu Touch. Bugs, so what, Android has its issues as does M$ Windows, iOS and MacOS, but they still work and you can usually work round bugs. If the fingerprint sensor doesn't work, so what, use a passphrase or pin code. If sound doesn't work, that's a different matter as it is a core part of device.
However, I do understand everyone has different circumstances, different ideas and what they want from Ubuntu Touch. There are four things that UT cannot do for me, 1) work stuff, just doesn't happen app wise (TEAMs etc., blahdy blah), 2) Banking stuff, one works in the browser, others don't, 3) Google Duo and (unfortunately) 4) Apple Face time (boo
, I have an Iphone just for this as it was cheap), so I use mine as much as I can, but have to use my Android phone (yeah Google, you can tell me when I am using the toilet). If it doesn't do it for you, I totally understand going back to Android or iOS.Sorry, about the long diatribe, but I hope you see where I am coming from. The only way I have learnt the hardware, installing and resolving issues with UT is playing with it and sorting things out and hopefully passing what I have discovered on (and it is what I do with every new piece of software, so I can pass on the information). My next step, when I have the time is to port and that will involve a lot of playing and experimentation.
On a postscript I am also playing with PostmarketOS, SailfishOS and e/OS, I just love tinkering and repairing...:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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@picrard That's fair enough. If the phone does not do what is required of it there is no point in continuing with it. With luck UT will match your needs in the future.
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@cliffcoggin yes, I will some day try it another time, maybe when I own another phone, again on the Fairphone 3 or another Ubuntu compatible one, have now installed IODÉ, looks great, is open source android and scans bad Google stuff
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@picrard Sorry about the above ramble. I hope you come back to UT at some point. IODÉ, looks very similar to e/OS as Android based, but no Google.
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I left Android in mid-2019 for UT and am still using it (FP2).
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@mrt10001 I understood before your development what you meant by the word 'play' and that's fine because it suits you.
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@picrard Frankly, I have been using UT for 8 months or more, and my phone is a daily use pixel 3a xl, and I have adapted to the situation, and I do not intend to go back to Android
. There is a huge difference in terms of reliability, and the problems that I encountered with Android are countless If I compare it with UT, I am now on 20.04 dev and waiting for the stable version.
i like UT OS and I want it to succeed
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I can relate to your situation, as I am having the same issues with my FP3+. Surely the largest pain is (in this order): Camera slow/unreliable, missing working podcast app, bluetooth connectivity.
Still I will not go back to google because of my concerns with their monopoly and data collection.
Personally, the experience of a free and private phone outweigh the mentioned disadvantages I have.
And considering this project is largely community driven, what a huge achievement. My utmost respect to all os and app developers and supporters to this amazing project.
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@homer said in After 5 month..why I swap back to Android...:
missing working podcast app,
Idk whats wrong with podphoneix, but theres no bug expressing any usability issues.
Please report issues youre having to the github.
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@homer i don t use podcast but camera and bt are good for me with fp3+
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@phoenixlandpirat podphoenix became unusable for me with ~ 5 podcasts as it was unresponsive while downloading podcasts for ~10 minutes and then my disk was full, had to delete the episodes and close podphoenix as it was still unresponsive.
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@redxxiii camera is ok when there is good lighting and no motion in the scene. Often this is not the case, as my son usually does not stand still:-)
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@homer you are right
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@homer there are no bugs about any of that on github, you should report it so more people who develop or work on the app can know about the bugs, and try to fix it.
