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Privacy problem due to journalctl?

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    • M Offline
      muskist
      last edited by 25 Sept 2023, 14:25

      I found that the logs of Morph Browser and also of Sapot Browser show the websites I have been on. This way the Logviewer app will show my browser history even if I cleared it in Morph and Sapot respectively.

      Apparently the Logviewer app retrieves the logs from journalctl. So there seems to be no way to prevent this persistent record (as opposed to 16.04 where the logs were deleted when the logged app was closed).

      Do I miss something or is this a privacy issue?

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        Keneda @muskist
        last edited by Keneda 25 Sept 2023, 18:11

        @muskist said in Privacy problem due to journalctl?:

        is this a privacy issue ?

        Indeed, even if someone need accessing the phone physically to do that.

        Other thing, if logs are never deleted, it's a matter of time before storage fulfilled, no ?

        Are logs deleted after rebooting?

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          muskist @Keneda
          last edited by 26 Sept 2023, 09:36

          @Keneda said in Privacy problem due to journalctl?:

          Are logs deleted after rebooting?

          Thanks for your reply.

          No, they are not deleted.

          K 1 Reply Last reply 26 Sept 2023, 13:04 Reply Quote 0
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            zubozrout
            last edited by 26 Sept 2023, 11:08

            I've noticed overall there are a lot of logs (and the Logviewer is flooded). It might be good for debugging but how good is it for the ssd's on the phone actually?

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              Keneda @muskist
              last edited by 26 Sept 2023, 13:04

              @muskist
              I think you found a serious issue here.
              You should open one on Gitlab for that.

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                muskist @Keneda
                last edited by 26 Sept 2023, 18:33

                @Keneda said in Privacy problem due to journalctl?:

                @muskist
                I think you found a serious issue here.
                You should open one on Gitlab for that.

                I'm struggling to find the proper place for that issue. Somewhere at https://gitlab.com/ubports/development I suppose. Can you help?

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                  Keneda @muskist
                  last edited by Keneda 26 Sept 2023, 18:54

                  @muskist
                  I guess it is in core components https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core?page=1

                  But can't tell wich one handle log records.

                  So, i'm quite useless here 😅

                  Did you search "journalctl" in repo ? (Edit : ok i did, no result...)

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                    Bolly
                    last edited by 27 Sept 2023, 08:03

                    Could this be a good place? https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/morph-browser/-/issues

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                    M 1 Reply Last reply 27 Sept 2023, 09:51 Reply Quote 0
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                      muskist @Bolly
                      last edited by 27 Sept 2023, 09:51

                      @Bolly said in Privacy problem due to journalctl?:

                      Could this be a good place? https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/morph-browser/-/issues

                      I put it there even though it seems to be a general problem of systemd/journald.

                      Thanks for your replies, guys.

                      B 1 Reply Last reply 27 Sept 2023, 10:54 Reply Quote 2
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                        beyolf @muskist
                        last edited by 27 Sept 2023, 10:54

                        @muskist Thank you for that catch, just wanted to add a small note the Logs should be cleared on reboot if devel mode is not enabled.

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                        M 1 Reply Last reply 27 Sept 2023, 11:40 Reply Quote 0
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                          muskist @beyolf
                          last edited by muskist 27 Sept 2023, 11:40

                          @beyolf Checked that earlier. Devel mode is not enabled.

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                            beyolf @muskist
                            last edited by 27 Sept 2023, 12:39

                            @muskist thank you for the information

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                              beyolf @muskist
                              last edited by beyolf 27 Sept 2023, 12:42

                              @muskist on what phone did you discovered this and which channel do you use for OTA.

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                                muskist @beyolf
                                last edited by 28 Sept 2023, 07:22

                                @beyolf Fairphone 3 running 20.04. OTA-2

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