Thanks, I dug out a usb-c to display port cable from my stash. This connection makes it choose 2560x1440x60Hz, not bad.

Somewhat I expected the update to Noble in June, either it got delayed or I misinterpreted something.

For me the desktop works good enough so far. Indeed some native UT apps don't accept mouse scroll, but it's ok to just click and drag the scrollbar.

I haven't experienced any launcher issues. When disconnecting the monitor it takes about 1-2 min to make the phone react. Sometimes it asks if I'd prefer to reconnect or potentially loose unsaved data from apps listed on the popup. The only launcher issue I have is with waydroid apps showing up in the drawer. I would prefer this to show only one icon to start android, the android apps should be managed only by android launcher.

So overall it looks very promising. If only I could find a dock which would let me connect everything via one cable.

Thanks a ton for both tips!

I'm just curious, how did you disable OSK? Maybe mine doesn't give me the option because it doesn't detect the external keyboard

Thanks, I dug out a usb-c to display port cable from my stash. This connection makes it choose 2560x1440x60Hz, not bad.

Somewhat I expected the update to Noble in June, either it got delayed or I misinterpreted something.

For me the desktop works good enough so far. Indeed some native UT apps don't accept mouse scroll, but it's ok to just click and drag the scrollbar.

I haven't experienced any launcher issues. When disconnecting the monitor it takes about 1-2 min to make the phone react. Sometimes it asks if I'd prefer to reconnect or potentially loose unsaved data from apps listed on the popup. The only launcher issue I have is with waydroid apps showing up in the drawer. I would prefer this to show only one icon to start android, the android apps should be managed only by android launcher.

So overall it looks very promising. If only I could find a dock which would let me connect everything via one cable.

I've been trying to use FP4 in both phone and "desktop" mode, but I see weird issues to start with. I have a DELL 4k monitor with usb-c connector which normally provides to the connected device: display, charging, and mouse/keyboard hooked via the integrated usb hub. Unfortunately this phone connects only as display out. I have to use Bluetooth mouse/keyboard. Further, it chooses a weird resolution 1920x2160x60Hz. I can't find if it's software issue or hardware limitation. Maybe it cannot drive 4k. I would prefer it to choose Full-HD resolution so the monitor would use the whole screen estate (now I have wide black bars on both sides) but I don't even know where to start looking to configure that. I've redirected dmesg logging into a file, but I don't see any logs related to display connection, nor resolution negotiation.

On the other hand, be it, I can just buy a native Full-HD display. Preferably with a keyboard. Can anyone recommend one of these displays (laptop-like docking stations) for Samsung DeX which works well with FP4? Ideally everything should work with just one cable connection, without additional pairing via BT.

Also, a minor thing, It would be nice to be able to turn off the internal display completely as it makes the device quite hot for no reason. Alternatively dimming it to the minimum brightness also works.

Final thought, if this is the usb port limitation, does FP5 have better one? I know that FP6 has only basic port for charging so it's definitely ruled out.

@kugiigi said in I hate swipes, buttons plesase:

If you know QML

thanks for the pointer

@Moem I always wanted Linux OS on the phone. Fairphone 4 satisfied all my wishes in terms of hardware features and quality, so I'm really happy being able to put a Linux on it.

I can't find other Linux firmware with complete support for FP4, so I guess UTouch is my starting point. I'm not sure what I will achieve, hopefully it's not that hard to switch the UI layer(?). However, honestly, just the two swype actions are used in this OS, so running them via simple bottom buttons would be a minimal but suitable change.

Maybe the left swipe and right swipe could be mapped to volume up and down physical buttons?

I'm not sure if such question was already discussed, most likely it was but I'm bad at searching. I'm not sure which category it best fits so posting here.

I know that many other mobile OSes started offering swipe gestures, but I hate them. It's very uncomfortable to do when you're holding the phone in your hand. I really love 3 simple buttons at the bottom of the phone. Could we have them in ubuntu touch?

• left button: does the same as swipe from left
• right button does the same as swipe from right
• middle button (if present): minimize all apps showing the wallpaper (or perhaps it's called background in ubuntu)

I know that ubuntu touch is not for everyone. Maybe I'm in the minority who doesn't like it, but everyone else is ok with the lack of simple navigation buttons. I'm curious to be honest, but with the current experience I'll perhaps resarch options to move to kde plasma.

@kugiigi said in is 5G already supported on Fairphone 4?:

Even 4G is gone in your place?

It depends on the operator. Sure there is one having solid coverage of any signal anywhere around, but it costs 4 times more. I don't miss the slow pre-5G access anyway.

@stanwood said in is 5G already supported on Fairphone 4?:

The question comes at: 37:20

woohoo, that's a really great news

by the way, they said porting code to openssl 3.x holds them down. Interestingly there's a nice feature to use new openssl lib with old client code by specifying the api level

https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/ba90c491254fd3cee8a2f791fc191dcff27036c1/Configure#L70-L74

but obviously updating the old apps is a better choice long term.

@Lakotaubp said in is 5G already supported on Fairphone 4?:

You could ask the question for our q&a here https://forums.ubports.com/topic/10790/ubuntu-touch-q-a-159-call-for-questions

I missed the date, was the question asked? I have skimmed through the YT recording, but I believe it was ignored.

What is the way to submit a bug against the device documentation as it falsely advertise that data is working on FP4? I can't use Telegram (mainly because I really don't want to, if you have to ask).

I've just installed, no 5G option. I'm also waiting for it as I don't have the old cell types available near me, only 5G.