@Moem Thanks again!

@Moem said in Q: notifications (non-LED):

For sure!

Thank you!

If you want to buy new, the Pinetime is a simple and cheap, but very usable option.

Do you know what that „Disclaimer: sealed device“ refer to? Water-proof? Tamper-proof?

@Moem said in Q: notifications (non-LED):

All I can say to that is that in my highly personal experience, I miss a great deal fewer notifications when I do wear a smart watch than when I don't.

Do you have – for the brave ones – any pointers to learn about compatibility of smart watches and UT phones?

@Moem said in Q: notifications (non-LED):

@padu said in Q: notifications (non-LED):

does Ubuntu Touch support this obscure feature of on-display visual feedback about missed calls, SMS etc. that you can notice without having to touch the phone?

I don't know how that exists at all. How can you show something on the screen without the screen being on?

Advances in low-power screen technology, which gives hardware manufacturers the option to spare that LED. But as I said, I've never really followed such news and am now a bit lost about the actual notification situation.

I mean, I cannot believe, people are happy permanently touching buttons to check for notifications, huh?

That's what my smart watches are for. To let me know about notifications, and even let me read them, without me having to touch my phone.

Adding yet another piece of hardware to the stack gives an opportunity for funny blame games. If I missed a notification, was it the watch's fault or the phone's? Certainly not a peace of mind enabler.

Nexus 5 user here, who has been ignorant of hot stuff in mobile hardware for the last few years. Now, about to buying a new phone, I'm unsure what kind of notifications Ubuntu Touch offers.

• LED notification (which is currently non-working on Focal devices, AFAIK).

• I do recall that (some) phones once introduced a mode of displaying permanent information (such as notifications) on the screen without the usual screen-on-battery-drain. Yet, I don't seem to be able to even google that feature. So, does Ubuntu Touch support this obscure feature of on-display visual feedback about missed calls, SMS etc. that you can notice without having to touch the phone? And what devices do? I'm only interested in knowing that some notification is waiting to be handled. Less in permanent display of (part of) the actual notification message.

Sorry for being so vague about a feature I cannot name or describe. I mean, I cannot believe, people are happy permanently touching buttons to check for notifications, huh? Does this question make any sense?

@lakotaubp said in Dekko 2 incoming email:

Though the app is not in the OS directly so each email account used in Dekko 2 would need password plus another verification for Google to except it, if I have that right of course.

Can't say if you're right, because I don't actually have a gmail account myself. I haven't been aware of big G enforcing 2FA now. Though, I've seen gmail support pages explaining how to turn off "2-step-verification".

What triggered my response was the fact that I've seen old, EOS phones having to be finally retired when mail providers tightened their list of accepted ciphers. 20.04 based UT will certainly stretch the live span of some phones (if not for gmail users).

@emphrath said in Dekko 2 incoming email:

@lakotaubp concerning gmail, they made clear they would drop support for "less secure apps" from may 30 and onwards. Dekko and gmail are a thing of the past.

I've never touched any 20.04 branch for UT, but from Gmail's view, doesn't the "less secure apps" refer to the 16.04 base (selection of supported ciphers etc.)? Shouldn't Dekko on 20.04 appear to Gmail just as an average mail app?

@ubportsnews Another 20.04 question (sorry if this has been asked before): According to the Ubuntu package database, package syncevolution is not part of the Focal package repositories any more. What will contact and calendar synchronization be based on in Focal based UT?

@flohack said in Halium 7.1 Test Channel:

Oh seems no sensors work at all, not even after reboot. Is this confirmed?

Yeah, confirmed by my post to the OTA-16 RC topic. I did the obvious and restarted the device before posting, but that didn't help. Will next time test if rebooting more than once makes a difference. (Sounds unlikely, though.)

@messayisto said in Halium 7.1 Test Channel:

Automatic Brightness doesn't work on my device.

Automatic brightness didn't work for me, too, after the update. As well as rotation. Since I've already run into the latter problem recently, I've powered the device off and on and automatic rotation and brightness were back. Note, just rebooting the device might not be enough.

Well, even though, changing environmental lighting conditions has an observable effect on screen brightness, sensitivity could indeed be more intense. Don't know if it is worse than on stable channel, since this device is only used occasionally.

@moem Powering the device down and on again brought rotation back. Thanks for the prompt reply!

@moem OK, thanks.

@unisuperbox Rotation doesn't seem to work on OPO with RC/W10. I've checked rotation lock and restarted the device. Unfortunately, I don't know if rotation ever worked before on this device. According to device page rotation should work. Can anybody confirm?

@keneda said in start.ubuntu.com:

For my self learning, how do you see those requests?

Since you're asking explicitly, here's a hack-ish non-Libertine way to watch outgoing (DNS) connections. Note that deb packages use xz compression nowadays that is not supported by UT's tar. So extraction of the binary has to be done on a device with a more recent version of tar.

# Download armhf deb package of tcpdump.  There are newer package versions on the server, but those may not work as easily because of further dependencies.
$ wget http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/t/tcpdump/tcpdump_4.7.4-1ubuntu1_armhf.deb
# Extract deb archive.
$ ar -x tcpdump_4.7.4-1ubuntu1_armhf.deb
# Extract binary.
$ tar -xf data.tar.xz 

Now, move file usr/sbin/tcpdump to the UT device (via adb, ssh, cloud). Then switch to a terminal on the UT device.

# Make the binary executable.
$ chmod +x tcpdump
# Watch all DNS queries on the device.
$ sudo tcpdump -i any port 53

Then wait and see.

(Tested on OPO OTA-16 RC/W09).

There's already a discussion about start.ubuntu.com that didn't turn up in a forum search for me before. According to that it's a connectivity check.

@keneda In a local (LAN-wide) DNS resolver.

I can see occasional outgoing requests to start.ubuntu.com (every ten minutes or so) on a Nexus 5/OTA-15 and OPO/RC with no apps open. Can somebody please shed some light on what's that used for in UT? Opening start.ubuntu.com in desktop browser reveals a Google search box.

@unisuperbox Cool, thanks! Will re-test then.

@unisuperbox Oh, I see that bug in the Gallery app.

@unisuperbox I can confirm the stuck-at-max-zoom bug still being present on OPO with RC/W09.