I've got the first cut of a click package if anyone would like to take it for a spin. It's still kinda rough so I'll be doing some more work on it before I publish it to the OpenStore. But if anyone wants to live on the edge and try it out...

armhf: https://thrrgilag.net/pantalaimon.thrrgilag_0.1.0_armhf.click
arm64: https://thrrgilag.net/pantalaimon.thrrgilag_0.1.0_arm64.click

source code, issue tracker, and mailing list:
https://sr.ht/~thrrgilag/pantalaimon-ut/

If you find issues, you can toss em to me on the issue tracker, mailing list, via matrix, email, or carrier pidgen.

Yes indeed, which I think makes Pantalaimon a good thing to have as as standalone package regardless of the future state of FluffyChat. As mentioned in the matrix room I'll help cook up scripts, packaging, UI, whatever to make it happen.

I've been making progress on the packaging. I've got the whole thing down to under 50MB now (versus more than 200MB). Just sorting out the click package and figuring out a basic UI to start with.

For those interested I cooked up a minor update taking care of a few missing things and the bug with saving the configuration for the first time. It contains the same binary as before just mainly cosmetic. Click packages can be found at the link.

https://git.sr.ht/~thrrgilag/pantalaimon-ut/refs/0.3.0

I'm still working on chasing down the image loading issue in FluffyChat as well as getting cross compiling fully sorted. Progress continues.

I've published another minor update. This release includes additional homeserver settings for http proxy and ssl verification. It also now has a global setting to update the log level to assist with troubleshooting.

https://git.sr.ht/~thrrgilag/pantalaimon-ut/refs/0.4.0

I'll be reaching out the OpenStore folks later this week and see about getting it reviewed and published. Then the focus will be on getting the interactive features wired up.

Thanks all for the feedback. I decided to go ahead and move forward with spinning up a fork so that at the very least can continue with bug fixes and ideally start adding the much desired missing features. I've got a new name in mind so not to be confused with the legacy or current FluffyChat project. I'll get the project spun up on gitlab soon. Please do continue with those wish list time of items or if there is an outstanding issue that's been bugging provide me the link so I can review and add it to my early hit list.

I've gone ahead and made the project public on GitLab for anyone who is curious as to where I'm heading with this. https://gitlab.com/thrrgilag/clacks. I've still got some changes to make around branding and need to come up with some artwork, and probably sort out translations. My initial release will be essentially like fluffychat 13.3 with a new name and a few bug fixes included. The big focus will then be on integrated E2EE so the code base will start to diverge a lot.

I'll make a more broader announcement in the near future.

@doniks said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

Created a branch using your build script:

https://gitlab.com/doniks/dekko/tree/building

Dekko should build, install and run now!

I took it for a spin on my laptop running 18.04 but it failed. (Issue #104 I'm presuming). I tried it on another machine I have with 16.04 still and it was able to build and install. Now onto the next step and try to get things functional.

@bam said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

I agree with the importance of working email client.
Actually, I would like to try Ubuntu Touch, and the lack of tolerable email client stops me.

I think dekko is getting close to being usable on xenial, just a matter of fixing a couple of bugs still lingering with the build. It already works great using the current stable 15.04 (vivid) release so you can take that for a spin.

By the way, its curious what would cost to adopt https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Email? Can we run their programs easily?

I believe the email app like others are not open source by Jolla. Just the framework referenced above which dekko I believe is already using. Also given that Silica is also proprietary it like other Sailfish apps would have to be modified in order to work properly.

@theare27 what device did you try it on? I know I had space issues with the Nexus 5 and someone else had space problems with the FP2. I have a pre-compiled tar for armhf you can try, just unpack in the homedir and edit the config file for your homeserver. thrrgilag.net/pantalaimon.tar.gz

I want to get this into a proper click package, maybe this weekend if I can get a couple of tweaks cooked up.

@theare27 yes seems to be an issue, I haven't had a chance to dig into it yet but will look into it.

I've narrowed the image download issue down to being specific to FluffyChat and in particular the control it uses to fetch the images. I haven't had any time yet to debug further but I'll post when I get to the bottom of it.

@theare27 you can go ahead and close it, the service will keep running.

@theare27 I hope that once I get to the root of the problem I can submit a patch to FC to resolve it fully. That is once I get the time to, the day job has me pretty busy right now. If nothing else maybe bouncing between the two clients will suffice unitl a fix can be found.

@BigB said in FluffyChat Encryption via Pantalaimon:

@thrrgilag

It works for me (converser). I'll try a privacytools next.

Awesome, glad to here it!

It works so great! What do You think about publishing it in openstore or creating a github/lab/whatever release page to make it easy to watch and find newest version?

I want to get cross builds working properly prior to getting it published in the openstore. At the moment you have to build the binary on device prior to packaging which isn't all that ideal.

It is already open source, available on sourcehut. https://sr.ht/~thrrgilag/pantalaimon-ut/ Any contributions in the form of patches, bug reports, etc are greatly welcome.

In terms of watching for a new release, you can subscribe to a RSS feed of the project (you can find one on the refs page for example) or there is a mailing list I setup to recieve patches which I can post announcements to. I'm also wiling to post announcements here or start a new thread in the forum to follow if folks prefer? I'm pretty open to suggestions.

@BigB pantalaimon currently doesn't have a way to logout and remove itself so you pretty much need to delete it from another session in the way you just did.

@jonius I wasn't sure how the gatekeepers would feel about it given that it's an unconfined app. But I suppose it's still worth spinning up the conversation at least with them and work through the process.

Thanks for letting me know about the 404s. Looks like it's a glitch with sourcehut, I'll chase that down with Drew. In the meantime I setup an alternate download location.

http://files.dreamfall.space/clicks/pantalaimon.thrrgilag_0.3.0_arm64.click

http://files.dreamfall.space/clicks/pantalaimon.thrrgilag_0.3.0_armhf.click

Thanks for putting this together.

With regards to the thumbnail issue in encrypted rooms, I think I've narrowed down the issue in FluffyChat, just need to get a proper patch put together. I'll post an update when it happens.

@drikk said in FluffyChat QML and Pantalaimon development:

On a side note, there is also Hydrogen, a matrix web client developed by Element/New Vector.
It works suprisingly well in Morph Browser with the exception of notifications. It is somewhat bare-bones, but at least it supports E2EE and is in active development. I have been using it as a rudimentary web app created with Webber.
Maybe this could also be a good starting point for a sustainable matrix client on Ubuntu Touch?

So something of a container to allow for push notifications? I had thought about that before Cinny came into the picture. And that might be an interesting option if someone wanted to tackle it. Ultimately I like the idea of having something more native and really enjoyed using FluffyChat on Ubuntu Touch when it was actively developed. My hope is that creating the fork will give an opportunity for development to continue on it's own path.