Ubuntu Touch Q&A 74 This Saturday at 19:00 UTC
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I almost don't dare to ask, but .... Qt update? :see-no-evil_monkey:
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A while ago, i believe Alan posted and you guys discussed that order for UBPorts to switch to wayland, the steps were:
- Upgrade Mir to a newer version
- Design the missing Wayland protocols to replace Mir protocol internally
- Migrate the internal Mir to Wayland
Now that OTA-12 is soon out, and a newer (1.2 - but 1.8 was released recently?) Mir is in place, where are you guys with this project and how high does it rank on your priority scope?
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About the PinePhone, what kernel version is used by Ubuntu Touch ?
Will it be updated more often than other devices (those dependent on android drivers) ?
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@libremax said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 74 This Saturday at 19:00 UTC:
About the PinePhone, what kernel version is used by Ubuntu Touch ?
Will it be updated more often than other devices (those dependent on android drivers) ?As I'm pretty sure both of these have already been answered multiple times, I'll go ahead and answer here. Pinephone currently has 5.5 kernel I think, and will soon have 5.6 I believe.
Yes, it being updated at all is already more often than any Android device, as those are tied to specific kernel versions due to binary blobs and the manufacturers not doing the work (technical and legal) to get newer versions available.
However, like Android based devices, the kernel used for Pinephone will be what Pine64 decides the kernel to be, based on the hardware compatibility and driver needs. We may build a copy of it for the Ubuntu Touch images, with necessary config changes or patches, but the main kernel comes from them.
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About the future of connected devices:
Today more than ever, the items we buy in the shops are called "connected items". Suppliers offer an app that allows you to control the operation of the device remotely. Although for most of them these features are gadgets, the smartphone is gradually becoming a kind of universal remote control to manage all its devices (electric blinds, remote heating, washing machine, lights, grills, cars, etc...). This evolution is now well known as "Internet of things". Of course applications are only available on Android and IOS...
How does Ubuntu Touch position itself regarding this evolution?
How to integrate these applications in closed containment method? Will the solution go through Anbox? Or on the contrary, will our developers, despite the meager available resources, be able to create in the future clone applications that will manage these connected devices? (I've seen Nymea App in OpenStore, but not sure if it works easily?)Thank you very much for your clarification and point of view. And thanks again to all of you for the incredible work you do!
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@dobey said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 74 This Saturday at 19:00 UTC:
However, like Android based devices, the kernel used for Pinephone will be what Pine64 decides the kernel to be, based on the hardware compatibility and driver needs. We may build a copy of it for the Ubuntu Touch images, with necessary config changes or patches, but the main kernel comes from them.
It seemed to me that pine64 only supported the hardware part of the PinePhone, had no role as far as the software was concerned and so UBports was free to make his own choices, limited only by driver compatibility issues.
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Almost @dobey, except the fact that both myself and Marius have write access to "the Pine64 kernel"
Software is on us.
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- please pardon the seemingly hostile tone of the question, i'm not sure how to phrase this better. *
Will the new Pinephone/pinetab ports have the same limitations as the Nexus 5 and other devices, or will those ports feel more like real gnu/linux?
The read-only filesystem and not having basic things preinstalled like gcc, or being able to just apt-get the other useful packages in a convenient way is really annoying, especially when the 'real linux in my pocket' idea is what drew me to ubuntu touch...the libertine chroot stuff seems to only work best on paper. -
@Swizzla-Kalongie This might answer some if not all of your question https://mariogrip.com/2020/01/08/linux-mobile-reality-check/
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How's the packaging of Lomiri Desktop for Debian coming along?
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Would you please talk a little about the goals of the Waylandify project? In particular, is a complete migration away from the mirclient API among the goals of the Waylandify project, or will some of that migration work require a separate future project?
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@Swizzla-Kalongie Ubuntu Touch is not a traditional Linux distro. Libertine exists for installing such things if needed. This is across all devices, and won't change.
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What are your plans for Ubuntu Touch OTA-13?
Loving Ubuntu Touch btw, thank you guys for developing it ^ ^
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There is a lot of talk about different concepts for a Corona-App in Europe, which seem to be targeting primarily Android and iOS devices. Is there a plan to approach the relevant institutions on national and international level in order to have at least in Europe the final concept also programmed for UT devices? Beyond the question of social responsibility it might also be a mean to spread the information about the existence of UT beyond the normal user group.
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Tell me. How awesome is it to work on one "real" recent Linux kernel for the Pine Phone instead of a dozen incompatible and weird and ancient Android hacks?
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When video playback will be fixed? UT can't play any kind of videos even the ones recorded by the phone. Each time it gives the following error message:
It doesn't work on all of my devices (Nexus 5 and Aquaris M10HD), still the issue in OTA-12 RC.
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@ezze +1 for this, I have the exact same problem on my Nexus 5 and it's really annoying
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Hi Ubports, the version of ubuntu touch is 16.04 now.
My question is we will go to 20.04 in version of ubuntu touch ? -
@ezze This is a known issue with N5. Workaround is to use UTmedia (available in open store), and apply those tips I posted a few times ago here https://forums.ubports.com/topic/3431/i-m-now-fully-using-ubuntu-touch-on-my-nexus-5/12?_=1587722152790
