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      A Former User
      last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 07:36

      Personally, I find it more trustworthy if you have to press the ok button after entering the PIN....

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        Keneda @Guest
        last edited by Keneda 1 Oct 2022, 09:25 10 Jan 2022, 08:27

        @john-silver
        It's not for the PIN (SIM), wich entering sequence didn't change (and still have to press enter), it's for passcode, for wich we didn't have to press enter before change neither.

        @darkeye said in New lock screen circles:

        No need to make the device slower and less usable beacuse of design...

        There is no reason for the "corrected" design animation to be slower, that's just a 4th dot to fill with white...

        @guru said in New lock screen circles:

        @cliffcoggin Yes, for me and others (see filed issue) it does matter. When I first saw the actual behavior I was shocked a bit. It violates the POLA.

        Please don't forget lot of users here are not native english speaking, and are way far from knowing english acronyms (even in my own native language i don't know 10% of them).

        So i digged the net to understand, wich is not convinient.

        If you're also wondering "What the hell is POLA ?!", just click here

        Not to be mistaken with this other POLA, wich can concern Ubuntu Touch too...

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          Keneda @guru
          last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 08:41

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            A Former User @Keneda
            last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 08:44

            @keneda
            yes, I mean the passcode pin.... ( not the sim pin )

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              guru @Keneda
              last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 09:14

              @keneda POLA: Principle Of Least Astonishment

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                Keneda @guru
                last edited by Keneda 1 Oct 2022, 09:31 10 Jan 2022, 09:23

                @guru
                Yes, i gave a link in my post leading to wikipedia.
                I'll edit to make it clearer.

                @john-silver said in New lock screen circles:

                @keneda
                yes, I mean the passcode pin.... ( not the sim pin )

                That part didn't change.
                And if we must hit enter for sim pin, it's because (i believe), if you mistake 3 time sim is locked, so it let you a chance to correct before validating, for the device pin, you can mistake as much as you want, there is no problem, and that's a bit quicker unlocking device without having to hit enter.

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                  Pulsar33
                  last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 10:32

                  Hi

                  From the security point of view, just one remark ...

                  • When I enter the passcode on my laptop/desktop, I have to end it with Enter and all this seems normal to anyone

                  ... and two questions : isn't it dangerous or at least a limitation that :

                  • the keyboard is automatically set to numeric if a number is expected ?
                  • the number of expected digits is indicated by the circles ?

                  Why do developpers always want to change what is working fine ?
                  is there not enough things to repair ?

                  BR
                  Pulsar33

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                    Bolly @Pulsar33
                    last edited by Bolly 1 Nov 2022, 08:52 11 Jan 2022, 08:48

                    @pulsar33 said in New lock screen circles:

                    ... and two questions : isn't it dangerous or at least a limitation that :

                    the keyboard is automatically set to numeric if a number is expected ?
                    the number of expected digits is indicated by the circles ?

                    Why do developpers always want to change what is working fine ?
                    is there not enough things to repair ?

                    It has always behaved in the same way, it has just been changed to make it prettier.

                    If you want to get the normal keypad with a 4 number pin and press enter to enter, you are free to set the option "password" and it will work like that. πŸ˜‰

                    Security also depends on people, as I said, if you want more security, put a password.
                    I want to unlock the phone quickly, as I am not in a "hacker" environment. 😜

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                      Pulsar33 @Bolly
                      last edited by 11 Jan 2022, 10:26

                      @bolly that was only my feeling and this is only yours. I won't go to war over it
                      BR
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                        arubislander @Pulsar33
                        last edited by 11 Jan 2022, 16:03

                        There is no need at all to go to war over anything, especially since there are options. If a pin, or the behaviour of the pin entry screen, is deemed insecure, then there is the option to specify a password for unlocking. This can be anything and will present a keyboard for entry and must also be confirmed with an ENTER. Seems like the exact behaviour you were looking for.

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                          Pulsar33 @arubislander
                          last edited by Pulsar33 1 Nov 2022, 20:07 11 Jan 2022, 20:07

                          @arubislander : no problem. Sorry if the expression "got to war" has not the same meaning in english than in french. It was just a way to say "not important".
                          I'll look at your explanations later and reply if usefull
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                            Pulsar33 @arubislander
                            last edited by 12 Jan 2022, 05:19

                            @arubislander It's very clever! I hadn't thought of that but indeed, that's exactly how I wanted it to work when replacing the PIN with the Password. Great ! Thanks
                            BR
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                              A Former User @arubislander
                              last edited by 12 Jan 2022, 07:08

                              @arubislander
                              Thanks, password is also the solution for me ... πŸ‘

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