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      Lakotaubp
      last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 09:33

      @drpi To make myself a bit clearer as the aim is for the FP4 isto be available preinstalled and sold that way it will be getting a lot of support. There is already a version of 20.04 available to try, and 16.04 has devel and RC update channels available now. I use it as my DD already. There is still some polishing to do but it already works very well so would make a good choice if the price is not an issue of course.
      If not a new device the OP5/5T now have 20.04 support available a nd the Pixel 3a is also looking good.

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        MrT10001 @DrPi
        last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 10:08

        @drpi As others have pointed out, for a cheap alternative, look at the Google Pixel 3a (bad battery life), Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 (supported for 20.04, but unlocking the bootloader is meddlesome) and the Oneplus 5/5T.

        Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
        I have too many devices...

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          domubpkm @Lakotaubp
          last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 13:10

          @lakotaubp Not clear enough yet šŸ˜‰ Fairphone 4 with UT preinstalled sold by whom? when will the product be available? Will the preinstalled ubuntu version be identical to a homemade flash? In short, this deserves more clarification (if you know šŸ™‚).

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            s710
            last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 13:46

            Does anyone have a comparison between FF4 and the Volla Phone?

            I do have a Volla Phone, but I find the performance to be rather disappointing (of course this is personal perception/preference). I see that the FF4 has a mid class CPU, but no OLED. How is performance and display quality compared to the Volla Phone?

            I am quite excited by the FF4 and love the concept, and I’m happy that it will be so well supported, but I am more of a sensible person in regards to responsiveness and performance (coming from an iPhone 11 pro where everything (including the gallery of 5k photos) opens and happens instantly). I am trying to get as close as I can, so I am also looking into the OP7 direction (since a port is being worked on), or the S10 which should also be quite powerful.

            Not yet using UT as daily driver, but I want to in the future.

            S 1 Reply Last reply 23 Dec 2022, 13:31 Reply Quote 0
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              sven @s710
              last edited by 23 Dec 2022, 13:31

              @s710 If your Volla is a Vollaphone 22, I can give you a rough performance comparison.

              VollaPhone22 (dual-boot of VollaOS and UT 20.04 OTA-5), Pocophone F1 (pmOS, edge)

              S 1 Reply Last reply 23 Dec 2022, 18:58 Reply Quote 0
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                s710 @sven
                last edited by 23 Dec 2022, 18:58

                @sven Nope I have the normal Volla Phone. But tell me anyway.

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                  sven @s710
                  last edited by sven 23 Dec 2022, 21:20

                  @s710 You can compare with Geekbench 5 scores if you keep in mind that all Vollaphones are variants of Gigaset phones. (Yes, Geekbench is Android based, but it should be a good indication for Linux, too.)

                  The first Vollaphone corresponds to the Gigaset GS290; I see a single-core score of 150 and a multi-core score of 902. The FP4 is much faster: 642 and 1878.

                  BTW: The Vollaphone 22 corresponds to the Gigaset GS5 and is somewhere in the middle, with scores 352 and 1296.

                  VollaPhone22 (dual-boot of VollaOS and UT 20.04 OTA-5), Pocophone F1 (pmOS, edge)

                  S 1 Reply Last reply 24 Dec 2022, 12:36 Reply Quote 2
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                    s710 @sven
                    last edited by 24 Dec 2022, 12:36

                    @sven said in Which phone ?:

                    @s710 You can compare with Geekbench 5 scores if you keep in mind that all Vollaphones are variants of Gigaset phones. (Yes, Geekbench is Android based, but it should be a good indication for Linux, too.)

                    The first Vollaphone corresponds to the Gigaset GS290; I see a single-core score of 150 and a multi-core score of 902. The FP4 is much faster: 642 and 1878.

                    BTW: The Vollaphone 22 corresponds to the Gigaset GS5 and is somewhere in the middle, with scores 352 and 1296.

                    Can you maybe share some details about UT usage beyond the benchmark numbers? Eg opening times of apps, stuttering, slow downs or other kinds of issues while using the app switcher, gallery, browser, other apps and so on?

                    Btw do you run the 20.04 channel or 16.04?

                    S 1 Reply Last reply 26 Dec 2022, 09:46 Reply Quote 0
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                      domubpkm
                      last edited by domubpkm 24 Dec 2022, 18:14

                      Not scientific šŸ™‚ but
                      volla < volla 22 < Fairphone 4.
                      That said, the Vollas are good mid-range smartphones and I have confidence in the professionalism of the Hallo Welt Systeme team.
                      Anyway, whatever the smartphone, Vollas, Fairphone or other smartphones, i think everything will depend on the efforts that will be invested by developers so that ubuntu 20.04 is well supported. A plus is that the Fairphone 4 will probably support 5g, not vollas.

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                        Keneda @domubpkm
                        last edited by Keneda 24 Dec 2022, 23:06

                        @domubpkm
                        One plus for Vollas is multiboot support though.
                        Hopping this feature to be ported for all devices that can handle this.

                        2015-2023 : Meizu MX4 ā˜ ļøāš°ļøāœļø
                        2023-2024 : Nexus 5 ā˜ ļøāš°ļøāœļø
                        2024-***** : FPOS Fairphone 5 waiting UT for freedom šŸ˜‰
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                          sven @s710
                          last edited by 26 Dec 2022, 09:46

                          @s710 Still running OTA-24, i.e. Ubuntu 16.04. I use my phone rarely, so I have no valuable impressions from the user interface.

                          VollaPhone22 (dual-boot of VollaOS and UT 20.04 OTA-5), Pocophone F1 (pmOS, edge)

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                            PhoenixLandPirat
                            last edited by 27 Dec 2022, 21:15

                            I would start by recommending a device that's got ubuntu 20.04 as an option

                            • Xiaomi Poco M3
                            • OnePlus 5
                            • OnePlus 5T
                            • OnePlus 6
                            • Xiaomi Mi A2
                            • Xiaomi Redmi Note 7
                            • Google Pixel 3a
                            • Volla Phone
                            • Volla Phone X
                            • Sony Xperia X
                            • Fairphone 4
                            • Volla 22

                            I've mostly heard updates from Alfred who praises the Pixel 3a, and also talks about the Fairphone 4, I know the OnePlus 5 runs wonderfully, and I know you can get the OP5 for pretty cheap.

                            What's best for you, is up to you, but I wouldn't even consider looking at devices without 20.04 support because you don't know how long they'll last, you don't know if they'll ever get a 20.04 update.

                            Another thing to consider is, which companys help and support ubuntu touch? maybe if you want to support ubuntu touch, you should consider getting the phones that either give you it pre-installed, or at least show off, or help the developers in some way.

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