Spreading Ubuntu Touch to the world

  • @wlbi That's right. Also we should not forget other countries like China & Japan where everyone is using WeChat or Line. We need Anbox to make these apps working on Ubuntu Touch and we need hardware vendors who can sell Ubuntu Phones. So maybe we should choose the right time for bigger marketing... If we invest into marketing too early, it could fade away.
    Btw.: There is already a UBports Twitter account: https://mobile.twitter.com/UBports

  • @davidcolombo hi, nice reflection.

    But theres not even an own dedicated Twitter or Instagram Account for Ubuntu Touch.

    Nope, UBports has official accounts in Twitter and Instagram too 🙂

    If I don't forget anything, this is the social media list:

  • @advocatux I already know these UBports Accounts and I follow them 😛

    But I thought about Accounts for Ubuntu Touch and the Open Store also,

    Like you have a verified Android or App Store Accounts on Twitter, wheres UbuntuTouch and OpenStore?

    Maybe I’m wrong but it I think its not bad if we have more presence with dedicated accounts for the products/services we offer also.

  • @davidcolombo ah, I see. Maybe @bhdouglass, and the Marketing Team, can give us their opinion about having a dedicated social account to promote the OpenStore and its apps.

    Do you think an OpenStore Twitter account is enough or should it have an account in all the social media? (keep in mind this is a volunteer based project).

  • As it talking about Government, here is also a big problem in China: Taiwan problem
    For some history reason, Taiwan and Chinese mainland still not get unified in one government.(It is a long history and it is getting more complex today, I can't put all of these here.) But both of Taiwan government and China mainland government agree that Taiwan is a part of China.(In official documents, but some Taiwan people just think Taiwan is a country)
    Also, all Chinese and Chinese mainland government CAN NOT ACCEPT someone says "Taiwan is a country" or do such action.

    And in nowadays Ubuntu-touch language&country setting, word "Taiwanese" is not acceptable by Chinese mainland government and Chinese people.In country selection, word "Taiwan" is not acceptable(It should be "Chinese Taiwan" or change word "country" into "region")

  • @advocatux I also think just a Twitter Account for the OpenStore is enough. It could be connected with the OpenStore RSS feed to provide automatically informations about new and updated Apps, and it could post App Recommendations of the Day/Week/Month.

    But I think it would be also cool to have a dedicated Ubuntu Touch Account even if its just mirroring UBports, but people should be able to find an own account for it if they search for UbuntuTouch like they would if they search for Android.

    Maybe we can even request Twitter verification badges for the Accounts, including UBports 😃

  • @davidcolombo

    Maybe we can even request Twitter verification badges for the Accounts

    We've been working on this for all of our accounts, but they require official (read: government) documents of ownership. Since the Foundation is still being applied for, we have none of these.

  • Maybe contact the developers of Instagram, WhatsApp, Twitter, etc and see if they are interested in writing apps for Ubuntu Touch? Making Anbox an easier install would also help.

    Personally I am posting screenshots of Ubuntu Touch to all my social media profiles in the hope of spreading the word about the OS.

  • @ernmander
    Would be really a great move, if you can contact them and tell us what was the result.
    I contact WhatsApp already August 6th 2015, about that concern. The only answer was a standard answer:


    We apologize that we have not gotten back to you yet.

    If your inquiry is a feature request, please understand that we have received your request and our development team is constantly working to improve our product. However, due to the small size of our company we are currently unable to supply a timeline for any feature.

    If you are still experiencing the issue you wrote in with, please first follow these steps:

    There was no other response anymore....

  • Should partner with electroneum!

    They are making phones now. Cryptocurrency is is about decentralized and freedom might as well make it open source.

  • @bencozzy

    We're not interested in partnering with any cryptocurrency right now. If you only registered to advertise an online currency I don't think you'll get very far here. 🙂

  • @bencozzy Hi, This thread is about spreading the Ubuntu Touch word. Please can we not get distracted with bringing cryptocurrency into the debate.

  • @WLBI with the upcoming phones I really expect that things will change then.

    While Purism is at the upper segment and therefore probably not for people who want to try out, I see lot of potential for advertising UT with the Pine phone. It will be in a reasonable price range, and especially for our app devs its important to get real hardware so they can work. Remember we do not have a working emulator or SDK, so its superhard to develop Apps.

  • @Flohack said in Spreading Ubuntu Touch to the world:

    Remember we do not have a working emulator or SDK, so its superhard to develop Apps.

    TBF, it's not so hard, if you build a qqc2 app. However, there does seem to be some issues in the stack when running on a device, which don't appear under X11 qpa with Qt. It seems to be related to initial sizing of components in the QML, and partly depends on how they are constructed in the QML.

    Am still banging my head on some of this, but it seems like maybe less of a problem if using Qt's autoscaling by enabling it in a main.cpp before initializing the app engine. So it's possible to develop an app on say stock Ubuntu 18.04 which works fine there with Qt 5.9.5, and then package it with clickable into a click for UT.

  • @dobey I mean rather the lack of all APIs, like sensors, camera etc. Modern Apps want to use that stuff, of course, and thats much easier for hobbyists or part time developers if they can just a real device.

    Emulation, cross-development etc. is all possible, but comes at a cost, and we want to have the lowest possible barrier ofc.

  • Instead of thinking of a whole SDK, we could start by providing docs on how to get auto completion and code navigation for some editors, as well as docs on how to debug apps. Imo we would have achieved a lot already then (together with clickable and the docs we already have).

  • @Flohack said in Spreading Ubuntu Touch to the world:

    @dobey I mean rather the lack of all APIs, like sensors, camera etc. Modern Apps want to use that stuff, of course, and thats much easier for hobbyists or part time developers if they can just a real device.

    The sensors and camera APIs are standard Qt APIs in QML. For example, I use authenticator-ng (qqc2/ergo version) daily on my PC. The camera usage in it works fine, as long as I have a webcam plugged in, or use it on laptop with built-in camera. Granted, there are plenty of things like content-hub which won't work without the pieces being available, but building a pure qqc2 app works just fine, as I said.

    Emulation, cross-development etc. is all possible, but comes at a cost, and we want to have the lowest possible barrier ofc.

    The whole point of unity8's goal of convergence is that the apps are built to run everywhere from the same source tree. You don't need, cross-compiling, etc… to develop apps, only for building to deploy. The barrier for developing apps for UT is extremely low, we just haven't made it apparent. If you want to lower it further, the best ways I see to do that are to focus on making convergence a reality, documentation, and then the deployment issue.

  • Hi guys. I've done a "local" UT/Ubports group on Minds for the Italian community (it was an Italian community approved choice).
    This group substitute the Italian Google+ group (so I didn't choice diaspora after tried it because we needed something more similar to G+) .
    Sadly it is not possible to see, in guest mode, directly the posts, but it's possible to see them with single direct link that I regularly post on the Italian UT/UBports Telegram Group (e.g. https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/960417396226318336).
    Actually it contains only 20 posts (first post on 13 oct 2018) with an average of 20 visualizations each and 8 members so we are far from the 240 members and hundreds post of G+
    the positive side is that I can use tokens, earned thank to the social activity on my personal Minds page, to advertise ubports (each token can be spent for 1000 visualizations).

  • My feeling is that the communication is very community centered. Once you're inside, it's OK : you know which communication channels are available, you know what to find in it, you recognise the key members and give more importance to their annonces.

    When it comes to spreading Ubuntu Touch to the world, the communication should aim outside the community, and the message should be loud and clear.

    I would redesign the webpage, and re-orient it towards "the world". Now that I'm "in the community", I just use the UBports.com as a hub to access this forum, the documentation, etc... But before stepping in, I was looking for a clear description of the OS itself, to know the state of development of the thing and couldn't find a proper one on the web page. Basically, there are too many information, and too vague:

    • I was expecting a revival of the Canonical Ubuntu touch page, neet, and sexy, focused on the OS. Instead I landed on an obscure crowded webpage for a developper community.
    • The ubuntu touch devices pages could be optimized. Both device detail pages (for instance https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/hammerhead) and "commercial" promoted devices page (https://ubports.com/de_DE/devices/promoted-devices) could by merged together.
    • Illustrations are not suited : we see a lot of safes and ubuntu logos, but no images of the actual OS itself 😃
    • No demo of the OS... I found some on the internet, but homemade. I had to navigate a lot to find a page that describes how the gestures work (which is a key information if you look for an alternative OS).
    • No clear idea of what is convergence. There are no demo for it, which is a pity, because it's cool and it works! The dedicated convergence page is too long 🙂 Each paragraph almost re-says the same content. They are like 5 or 6 different (and graphically unconsistent) illustrations, but no demo, and no actual picture of what is it. It is not clear if it is a whished or a working feature... Still the image of safe in the header 😉

    We've got some improvement to do in this direction 🙂 Maybe is it allready even a tackled topic. For my concern, I only know basics of web dev, but I have a good feeling with user experience and design in general. I could help with mock ups and illustrations if a new site is planned one day.

  • Adding to my post, here the page from the canonical times I was refering to (my very first serious use of the internet archive :P) :

    Even found the old gestures videos... https://web.archive.org/web/20180124153738/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qocy2Ypz-_Y

    Unless the scopes, most is still uptodate enough to be reused for promotionnal purposes. (It is also satisfying to see that the designs from 2014 have not got old at all !) In which extend is the support from canonical about it ? Would they allow to reuse those materials and even be OK to share the project files from webpages, images and videos so that a talented community member would update them ?

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