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Fairphone 3+ vs Volla Phone vs ?????

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      AdLinux @Keneda
      last edited by 20 May 2021, 21:09

      @keneda I had looked into the Pixel 3a, and it looks so good. It really is the lack of an SD card slot that's holding me back as 64GB of storage is just not enough for me.

      I'll put it on the maybe pile though, just in case I don't get along with the Volla or Fairphone.

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        AdLinux @libremax
        last edited by 20 May 2021, 21:19

        @libremax I had looked at this phone before, and it does look really good. The thing that has put me off however, is the way that it seems you have to unlock the bootloader.

        How easy is it to unlock the bootloader on the Redmi Note 7? And is it possible to do it without having to give my details over to Xiaomi and wait for them to grant me the unlocking code?

        The phone itself looks great, I just don't like what I've heard about Xiaomi. But if I'm wrong please tell me!

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          stanwood @AdLinux
          last edited by 20 May 2021, 21:22

          Now this might seem really silly, but what is off-line charging? I'm assuming it doesn't mean the phones ability to charge whilst disconnected from wifi lol

          Off-line charging means that the device can be charged when it is switched off.

          Redmi Note 9S Stable
          If God has a computer, it must be a GNU/Linux

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            stanwood @AdLinux
            last edited by 20 May 2021, 21:25

            @adlinux Redmi Note 7 works really well on UT as well:

            You can read my state of play here:

            https://forums.ubports.com/topic/6026/redmi-note-7-state-of-play/6

            However, indeed, you need to first unlock the bootloader using MI flashtool.

            Best is to follow carefully the UBports installer instructions.

            Redmi Note 9S Stable
            If God has a computer, it must be a GNU/Linux

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              domubpkm @AdLinux
              last edited by 20 May 2021, 21:30

              @adlinux said in Fairphone 3+ vs Volla Phone vs ?????:

              Thanks for letting me know about the Volla Phone's problems. I've looked through that github list and like you said, the thing to look out for seems to be the network coverage which is quite a big deal.
              For that reason I've emailed Volla about this to get their input and they have actually responded to me saying:
              "I found the following information on the UK website of O2.
              LTE BANDS UK
              1 - 2100 MHz
              3 - 1800 MHz
              7 - 2600 MHz
              8 - 900 MHz
              20 - 800 Mhz
              The Volla Phone operates on
              GSM / 2G: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz,
              UMTS / 3G: 900 / 2100 MHz,
              FDD / LTE / 4G: 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 MHz"
              O2 are the mobile network that my SIM is connected to.
              So this looks like it should be all good (as far as I can tell, the numbers at least seem to match), at least from a hardware level. But do you think the issues could be more closely related to software?

              I think you should ask if other users use the same data provider as you on the Volla and what kind of problems they have... After that you could decide 🙂

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                Luksus @AdLinux
                last edited by 21 May 2021, 06:37

                @adlinux Hi, for the FP3+ the main issues are:

                • mobile data does not work at all
                • cellular network (phone, sms) is somehow connected to WiFi
                  I am not really sure yet, what the main reason is:
                  • either it only depends on the activated wifi-toggle
                  • or it needs an active data connection
                    Anyway, in most situations, If I am not at home and there is no WiFi, I miss calls and can't do calls.
                • video recording does not work yet, but that's low priority compared to call/sms issues

                Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                  AdLinux @stanwood
                  last edited by 22 May 2021, 08:58

                  @stanwood Thanks for clearing up my confusion to do with on-line and off-line charging. I hadn't even considered that a phone wouldn't be able to charge when turned off!

                  As for the Xiaomi; I am really tempted by these phones and have looked at them before. From a hardware perspective they look great, the big killer for me is how I would need to go about unlocking the bootloader.

                  Here's where I might be getting a bit tin foil hat-ish; I simply do not trust giving Xiaomi any of my data whatsoever. So, do you know if it is at all possible to unlock the bootloader without creating a Mi account? If I can't then I'll have to pass on the Xiaomi's even if their phones do look really good.

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                    AdLinux @domubpkm
                    last edited by 22 May 2021, 08:58

                    @domubpkm Thanks! I've taken you're advice and have posted a question about this in the Volla Phone thread!

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                      AdLinux @Luksus
                      last edited by 22 May 2021, 09:01

                      @luksus That's a shame, the FP3+ looks like such a cool phone.

                      I'll be keeping an eye out for updates to it though as I would love to try out the phone when the Ubuntu Touch port for it is more ready.

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                        tommiedom
                        last edited by 22 May 2021, 10:07

                        Metoo, i would be interested in FP3(+) when my FP2 breaks

                        FP4

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                          AdLinux
                          last edited by 25 May 2021, 20:25

                          Having taken everyone's comments and advice into account (thank you very much to everyone who has been helping me), and having ran a Mastodon poll (for the hell of it) I have just ordered myself a phone to run Ubuntu Touch on as a daily driver!

                          And the winning phone is drum roll................ the Volla Phone!

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                            domubpkm @AdLinux
                            last edited by 25 May 2021, 21:05

                            @adlinux Good device totally usable in everyday life. I had a hard time activating the internet first and then the mms (french APNs) but it is ok now 😉 I wish you a good an easier start up.

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                              RedXXIII @tommiedom
                              last edited by 27 May 2021, 07:15

                              @tommiedom same for me!

                              Fairphone 3+ / BQ Aquaris M10 FHD / BQ Aquaris E5

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                                scoobie @AdLinux
                                last edited by 25 Jun 2021, 12:05

                                Apologies for bumping an old thread, but I was interested in the discussion: I really like the idea of UBports, and I've been looking at the Volla Phone as well 🙂

                                @adlinux I wondered if you'd received your Volla Phone yet - if you don't mind me asking - and if so what your impressions were...?

                                Thank you.

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                                  AdLinux @scoobie
                                  last edited by 17 Jul 2021, 20:50

                                  @scoobie Sorry for the late reply (busy). I've used it for around a month now and I'm mostly very happy with it.

                                  It does have an issue with the volume rocker not actually changing the volume. Although since OTA18 it can now mute the audio lol.

                                  Other than that, I'm happy with my choice 🙂

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                                    TotalSonic @AdLinux
                                    last edited by 18 Jul 2021, 18:36

                                    @adlinux - your volume rocker issue sounds like it might be a hardware problem specific to your phone as I have never had an issue like that on my Volla. You might try to bring it to Hallo Welt System;s attention to see if they warrant against that defect.

                                    Best regards,
                                    Steve Berson

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                                      domubpkm @AdLinux
                                      last edited by 18 Jul 2021, 19:12

                                      @adlinux said in Fairphone 3+ vs Volla Phone vs ?????:

                                      the volume rocker not actually changing the volume

                                      I have never had this problem for any use. Can you be more specific about your problem and say for which uses you can't change the volume?
                                      Have you tried to reflash your smartphone completely using the installer?

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                                        AdLinux @TotalSonic
                                        last edited by 20 Jul 2021, 20:50

                                        @totalsonic Oh God I hope not. I might have to consider trying to flash VollaOS to the phone to see if it has the same issue. I'd rather not have to if it can be avoided though.

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                                          AdLinux @domubpkm
                                          last edited by 20 Jul 2021, 20:51

                                          @domubpkm Sure, I've made a thread about it now where I go into more specifics:

                                          https://forums.ubports.com/topic/6457/volume-unresponsive-on-volla-phone

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                                            domubpkm @AdLinux
                                            last edited by 20 Jul 2021, 21:10

                                            @adlinux Yes. First, i advise you again to reflash your phone using the ubports installer. Only DON'T CHECK 'wipe user data'. it will cost you less than 500 mb and you will start with a clean installation.
                                            This is a basic check if any malfunction should follow from one installation to another. This method has often helped me.

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