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      • G Offline
        guru
        last edited by

        Since one of the latest OTA the GUI of entering the unlock code has change a bit: There are now empty circles and with every entered digit the actual circle is filled. The small issue is: entering the last (correct) digit does not fill the last circle, but clears all circles and than gives access to the desktop.

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        • MoemM Offline
          Moem
          last edited by

          And this is an issue because... ?

          Is currently using an Op5t
          Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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            cliffcoggin @guru
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            @guru That is as intended. Is that a problem?

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            • CiberSheepC Offline
              CiberSheep @guru
              last edited by

              @guru thanks. There is an issue open about this
              https://github.com/ubports/unity8/issues/420

              Another planet, another time, another universe!

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                guru @cliffcoggin
                last edited by

                @cliffcoggin Yes. I as a user would expect that the last correct digit fills the last circle for a short moment and than gives access to the phone's desktop. I see, that other filed an issue for this in the tracker too.

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                  cliffcoggin @guru
                  last edited by

                  @guru If the passcode reveals the desktop, does it really matter whether the last circle is black, white, pink, or rainbow coloured?

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                    guru @cliffcoggin
                    last edited by

                    @cliffcoggin Yes, for me and others (see filed issue) it does matter. When I first saw the actual behavior I was shocked a bit. It violates the POLA.

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                      cliffcoggin @guru
                      last edited by

                      @guru Shocked? You are a lucky man to have nothing more important to be shocked by.

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                        aarontheissueguy @cliffcoggin
                        last edited by aarontheissueguy

                        @cliffcoggin Why would you be this rude. He is just suggesting an improvement. It might not be important to you personally but there are people who care about design (Thats why there is a design subforum.). I agree to @guru and think it is an inconsistency in the design. You may disagree but should stay friendly none the less.

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                        • LakotaubpL Offline
                          Lakotaubp
                          last edited by

                          I can see that this might seem a bit trivial to some as the security part seems to be working fine, but once spotted you can't help notice the implementation issue. Which has been reported and is being fixed which is also correct. So lets respect each others points of view keep everything open and friendly. The main thing is the problem should soon have a fix making the OS look even better.

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                            darkeye
                            last edited by darkeye

                            Hey nice long and civilized disussion 😉
                            Just wanted to add my two cents, So when it fixed it should not impact the speed that the device is opened.

                            No need to make the device slower and less usable beacuse of design...

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                              A Former User
                              last edited by

                              Personally, I find it more trustworthy if you have to press the ok button after entering the PIN....

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                              • KenedaK Offline
                                Keneda @Guest
                                last edited by Keneda

                                @john-silver
                                It's not for the PIN (SIM), wich entering sequence didn't change (and still have to press enter), it's for passcode, for wich we didn't have to press enter before change neither.

                                @darkeye said in New lock screen circles:

                                No need to make the device slower and less usable beacuse of design...

                                There is no reason for the "corrected" design animation to be slower, that's just a 4th dot to fill with white...

                                @guru said in New lock screen circles:

                                @cliffcoggin Yes, for me and others (see filed issue) it does matter. When I first saw the actual behavior I was shocked a bit. It violates the POLA.

                                Please don't forget lot of users here are not native english speaking, and are way far from knowing english acronyms (even in my own native language i don't know 10% of them).

                                So i digged the net to understand, wich is not convinient.

                                If you're also wondering "What the hell is POLA ?!", just click here

                                Not to be mistaken with this other POLA, wich can concern Ubuntu Touch too...

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                                  Keneda @guru
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                                    A Former User @Keneda
                                    last edited by

                                    @keneda
                                    yes, I mean the passcode pin.... ( not the sim pin )

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                                      guru @Keneda
                                      last edited by

                                      @keneda POLA: Principle Of Least Astonishment

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                                        Keneda @guru
                                        last edited by Keneda

                                        @guru
                                        Yes, i gave a link in my post leading to wikipedia.
                                        I'll edit to make it clearer.

                                        @john-silver said in New lock screen circles:

                                        @keneda
                                        yes, I mean the passcode pin.... ( not the sim pin )

                                        That part didn't change.
                                        And if we must hit enter for sim pin, it's because (i believe), if you mistake 3 time sim is locked, so it let you a chance to correct before validating, for the device pin, you can mistake as much as you want, there is no problem, and that's a bit quicker unlocking device without having to hit enter.

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                                        • Pulsar33P Offline
                                          Pulsar33
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                                          Hi

                                          From the security point of view, just one remark ...

                                          • When I enter the passcode on my laptop/desktop, I have to end it with Enter and all this seems normal to anyone

                                          ... and two questions : isn't it dangerous or at least a limitation that :

                                          • the keyboard is automatically set to numeric if a number is expected ?
                                          • the number of expected digits is indicated by the circles ?

                                          Why do developpers always want to change what is working fine ?
                                          is there not enough things to repair ?

                                          BR
                                          Pulsar33

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                                            Bolly @Pulsar33
                                            last edited by Bolly

                                            @pulsar33 said in New lock screen circles:

                                            ... and two questions : isn't it dangerous or at least a limitation that :

                                            the keyboard is automatically set to numeric if a number is expected ?
                                            the number of expected digits is indicated by the circles ?

                                            Why do developpers always want to change what is working fine ?
                                            is there not enough things to repair ?

                                            It has always behaved in the same way, it has just been changed to make it prettier.

                                            If you want to get the normal keypad with a 4 number pin and press enter to enter, you are free to set the option "password" and it will work like that. 😉

                                            Security also depends on people, as I said, if you want more security, put a password.
                                            I want to unlock the phone quickly, as I am not in a "hacker" environment. 😜

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                                              Pulsar33 @Bolly
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                                              @bolly that was only my feeling and this is only yours. I won't go to war over it
                                              BR
                                              Pulsar33

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