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Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration

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      lduboeuf @CiberSheep
      last edited by 3 Mar 2022, 13:59

      @cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

      @lduboeuf Interesting.
      I understand why you add the option as a separated ComboButton, but I would add it as a new element of the main ListView

      • Swipe (no security)...
      • 4-digit passcode
      • 4-digit passcode clock prompt
      • Passpharse...
      • Fingerprint...

      Humm, that layout would mean to be able to create a pincode with the "clock". That would need a different work for me πŸ˜‰

      or even better:

      • Swipe (no security)...
      • 4-digit passcode... -> Popup with the options
      • Passpharse...
      • Fingerprint...

      Is it UX wise to open a popup or a another page on a OptionSelector item ? I haven't found an example in current system settings

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        CiberSheep @lduboeuf
        last edited by 3 Mar 2022, 14:09

        @lduboeuf

        Is it UX wise to open a popup or a another page on a OptionSelector item ? I haven't found an example in current system settings

        Actually, if you set Β«no securityΒ» or Β«passphraseΒ» it will show you a pop up.

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          lduboeuf @CiberSheep
          last edited by lduboeuf 3 Mar 2022, 14:18 3 Mar 2022, 14:10

          @cibersheep oh yes just noticed that, thx πŸ˜‰

          [EDIT]:
          What can be weird is that if "4-digit passcode" item is already selected, having to tap on it again to change the pin code prompt.

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            Moem
            last edited by 3 Mar 2022, 15:45

            I love this project so much. 😍

            I use fingerprint unlocking on the OP 5t; it works most of the time. When it fails, the standard pincode/passphrase unlock comes up. I would love it if I could use fingerprint with this new option as a fallback instead. It's just so cool.

            Is currently using an Op5t
            Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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              lduboeuf @CiberSheep
              last edited by 3 Mar 2022, 20:23

              @cibersheep Aside from that, there is something need to be reworked because actually if you want to change the password/pincode, you need to switch to another option and then back again.
              That option list is maybe not the right component to use.
              We should have the "change password" action possible for the password and pin code.

              I'm a bit stuck how i can handle the above pin code prompt choice with what you said. If you have any mockup, it would be great.

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                Moem
                last edited by 3 Mar 2022, 20:31

                I would be interested in a feature that allows the numbers to be hidden from view (optionally). Maybe they can be shown if the first try fails? Some of us remember numbers well, others are good with patterns...

                Is currently using an Op5t
                Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                  lduboeuf @Moem
                  last edited by 3 Mar 2022, 20:37

                  @moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.
                  But your wish is fully understandable πŸ˜‰

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                    Moem @lduboeuf
                    last edited by 3 Mar 2022, 20:52

                    @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                    your wish is fully understandable

                    Well that's a first! 😏

                    Is currently using an Op5t
                    Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                      messayisto @lduboeuf
                      last edited by 3 Mar 2022, 21:23

                      @lduboeuf very nice! works well on rc channel on xiaomi mi a2. would love to see this in daily use...

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                        CiberSheep @lduboeuf
                        last edited by 4 Mar 2022, 12:19

                        @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                        @cibersheep oh yes just noticed that, thx πŸ˜‰

                        [EDIT]:
                        What can be weird is that if "4-digit passcode" item is already selected, having to tap on it again to change the pin code prompt.

                        That's where I would go to change it. Now, even if it has ... it does nothing if already selected.

                        But I see the fingerprints are on the main Security view. Let me make a mockup and let's see if we can find a consistent solution here πŸ™‚

                        Another planet, another time, another universe!

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                          CiberSheep @lduboeuf
                          last edited by 4 Mar 2022, 12:21

                          @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                          @moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.

                          Oh, I thought showing the pin was only for the test app to know if that worked.
                          I don't think is a good idea to have a visible pin code. Or I missed the joke?

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                            lduboeuf @CiberSheep
                            last edited by lduboeuf 3 Apr 2022, 15:05 4 Mar 2022, 15:01

                            @cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                            @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                            @moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.

                            Oh, I thought showing the pin was only for the test app to know if that worked.
                            I don't think is a good idea to have a visible pin code. Or I missed the joke?

                            This was intentional, the idea was to provide a "test" screen just to be familiar with it in system settings. But i agree, on other platforms, you don't have a "tester", when you choose "pattern", you are asking to create/modify the the pattern.

                            Here we are in special case where users still define its pin code with keyboard. And i would like users just to choose between default pin code prompt or the "clock" one. Maybe the "tester" is not needed ? And just let user discover it at login time.

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                              kugiigi
                              last edited by 4 Mar 2022, 17:30

                              Maybe the option can be added directly in the lock screen. Some kind of a button to switch between modes on the fly. Also, would be great if it also support keyboard input for convergence πŸ˜„

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                                lduboeuf @kugiigi
                                last edited by 4 Mar 2022, 18:16

                                @kugiigi yes that could be an option.
                                Humm in my previous test keyboard was working, but maybe not in the demo ?

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                                  CiberSheep @kugiigi
                                  last edited by 4 Mar 2022, 19:28

                                  @kugiigi said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                                  Maybe the option can be added directly in the lock screen.

                                  I don't think that's a good idea 😘

                                  Also, would be great if it also support keyboard input for convergence πŸ˜„

                                  and this is a very good point

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                                    CiberSheep @lduboeuf
                                    last edited by 4 Mar 2022, 19:34

                                    @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                                    This was intentional, the idea was to provide a "test" screen just to be familiar with it in system settings. But i agree, on other platforms, you don't have a "tester", when you choose "pattern", you are asking to create/modify the the pattern.

                                    I'm not thinking of other platforms πŸ˜‰ but having the pin code exposed all time. I thought the pin in the test screen was just for testing purpose, not going in system settings

                                    Here we are in special case where users still define its pin code with keyboard. And i would like users just to choose between default pin code prompt or the "clock" one. Maybe the "tester" is not needed ? And just let user discover it at login time.

                                    This is interesting. Maybe what we want to do is detach the pattern from pin (is that possible? You know the code) as a new form of security code (like fingerprints or passphrase). That could make it on its own, simplify the UI but it would need a way to access via mouse or keyboard

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                                      lduboeuf @CiberSheep
                                      last edited by 4 Mar 2022, 21:16

                                      @cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                                      @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                                      This is interesting. Maybe what we want to do is detach the pattern from pin (is that possible? You know the code) as a new form of security code (like fingerprints or passphrase). That could make it on its own, simplify the UI but it would need a way to access via mouse or keyboard

                                      So you mean having a list of items like this:

                                      Swipe (no security)...
                                      4-digit passcode
                                      4-digit passcode clock prompt
                                      Passpharse...

                                      And click on "4-digit passcode clock prompt" ,would bring you to another page, with a way to create a pin code via the clock ?

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                                        CiberSheep @lduboeuf
                                        last edited by 5 Mar 2022, 03:03

                                        @lduboeuf could that work?

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                                          lduboeuf @CiberSheep
                                          last edited by 5 Mar 2022, 09:11

                                          @cibersheep i just need to try it but works need to be done πŸ˜‰

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                                            lduboeuf @CiberSheep
                                            last edited by 5 Mar 2022, 10:29

                                            @cibersheep i admit, this going to add more work. The simplest would have been just to add a toggle to switch between default prompt to the clock one. If you have any mockups it will help me

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