For me, some appreciated features would be:

• option to move adress bar to the bottom of the screen
• quick toggle (in burger menu) for desktop mode for one tab only
• option to swipe address bar to change tab left or right

In other words I'm really quite happy already, more than anything just keep up the great work!

Edit: Another thing I realized I miss is a forced dark mode - basically a way to force white text on black background for all web sites. Opera for Android has it and I loved it. Not exactly top priority stuff though.

Very excited about this - fingers crossed chat applications with push notifications will at some point be supported, though I see how that might be challenging. Great initiative in either case.

And shout out to the anonymous donor who gave 2 500 euros earlier today.

If I were to summarize the general statement in three tabloid keywords, I would probably go for:

Transparent
Developed as an open source project, Ubuntu Touch contains no hidden nuts and bolts. Your usage data is kept exactly where you want it: on your device, and nowhere else.
Community-driven
Rather than being developed by one of the richest companies in the world, Ubuntu touch is fully developed by the community of users. As a consequence the system is developed with the sole purpose of giving the best and most secure user experience possible, while mainstream systems balance these concern against profit.
Built to last
Rather than being developed individually for each device, Ubuntu Touch runs the exact same operative system on all phones. This means that your phone will continue to receive software updates for years after traditional vendors would drop support.

Just a quick comment on the problem of short bars on relative graphs: Is this really a problem? When opening this setting I guess most users are interested in what is taking up space on their system, and the very short relative graphs is a great indication that "it's not this".

At least for me, that's much more valuable than the technical details about each app. And the graphs are a great way of making it clear, while the difference between 100 mb and 100 kb when written out is hard to grasp for most (non-tech) people.

The number of trolls in the Linux community is really incredibly frustrating. For coming across as tremendous nerds it's amazing that these people don't seem to realize that open source comes with the freedom of a) forking, b) contributing, or c) keeping your mouth shut and use something else if you're not happy.

It's the curse of internet comment sections in general: people with something valuable to add are generally less interested in spending a large portion of their lives posting on message boards. So always nice when people make sure to voice the non-toxic opinion of the silent majority!

While not as powerful as the web interface, I have used android apps in the past, and I think it's useful. They tend to be less powerful than the website, but it's nice to be able to contribute when I'm out and about, for example if I'm waiting to meet someone in a restaurant that is not listed.

That being said, developing such an app for Ubuntu Touch might be harder work than what it is worth at the moment - it would have to be used a lot before it's more efficient than just contributing to OSM directly.

Two questions regarding the current plans for apps across different mobile distros. They might be stupid or previously answered, but I did not have much luck with the search function. I'm not particularly concerned with the state of affairs at the moment, this is more about where the development is headed over the next months and years.

1. As far as I understand, Plasma Mobile and Ubuntu Touch are making some efforts to make the same Qt apps run effortlessly on both platforms. Is it likely that the same app store (OpenStore, I assume) would be a default feature on both platforms?
2. The Gnome world seems to have a completely different take on the issue, with GTK4 apps developed with an adaptable interface using libhandy being seen as the way of the future. Will software developed in this manner (like future releases of Geary or Gnome Maps) be easily available on UT, possibly even in the OpenStore? And should it be expected to run about as well on Ubuntu Touch as, say, PostmarketOS?

Guess I'm just worried about fragmentation.

The difference between constructive feedback/opinion sharing and criticism is lost in translation all the time when stuff is written. Maybe even more in open source forums than anywhere else. No need to derail the conversation, if one adds a thin layer of good faith there's not much a disagreement here at all.

As for the boot logo, if I create an image in the correct resolution and follows the Nexus 5 steps, would it be likeky to work on my Nexus 6p? And if it didn't, would I be likely to break anything?

@c0n57an71n
Simplified, in case you're out of the loop:

1. Stallman makes problematic statement, resigns from board of the Free Software Foundation
2. 18 months later Stallman and/or the Foundation has a change of mind, Stallman re-joins the board
3. People point out that the problematic statement is still problematic, reflecting badly on the free software movement should Stallman keep his spot at the board
4. Stallman joins Dr Seuss and Mr. Potato Head in the strange wave of post-45 cancel culture outrage

What a time to be alive.

Here's the first video I've seen of video out working on the Pinephone:
https://twitter.com/thepine64/status/1271198037726109696

Can't make out the name of the dock, but somebody asked in the Twitter thread already and I imagine it will be answered soon enough.

@alita One option might be Lineage OS, another is /e/OS. /e/OS supports some Samsung phones, but this one doesn't seem to be on the list yet: https://doc.e.foundation/devices

Both are Android based; Lineage is independent from Google, while /e/OS is actively anti Google (it uses Mozilla location services, feeds Google false information if you choose to set up your phone with a Google account, etc). I use the latter as my daily driver, and while Ubuntu Touch is more exciting, these are great alternatives for getting the convenience of Android without the surveillance of Google.

Here's an old thread about this:
https://forums.ubports.com/topic/3844/swipe-style-keyboard/19

It seems some relevant technology might have been developed for SailfishOS, but nothing became of that discussion.

I remember seeing someone demonstrating a swype keyboard for Phosh at one point, but I cannot find it anywhere.

Very excited about this - fingers crossed chat applications with push notifications will at some point be supported, though I see how that might be challenging. Great initiative in either case.

And shout out to the anonymous donor who gave 2 500 euros earlier today.

@c0n57an71n
Simplified, in case you're out of the loop:

1. Stallman makes problematic statement, resigns from board of the Free Software Foundation
2. 18 months later Stallman and/or the Foundation has a change of mind, Stallman re-joins the board
3. People point out that the problematic statement is still problematic, reflecting badly on the free software movement should Stallman keep his spot at the board
4. Stallman joins Dr Seuss and Mr. Potato Head in the strange wave of post-45 cancel culture outrage

What a time to be alive.

The number of trolls in the Linux community is really incredibly frustrating. For coming across as tremendous nerds it's amazing that these people don't seem to realize that open source comes with the freedom of a) forking, b) contributing, or c) keeping your mouth shut and use something else if you're not happy.

It's the curse of internet comment sections in general: people with something valuable to add are generally less interested in spending a large portion of their lives posting on message boards. So always nice when people make sure to voice the non-toxic opinion of the silent majority!

Messenger in Sailbook/the mobile web page stopped working completely for me recently. Just not available anywhere.

The only solution I've found is to use Pesbook, set it to zoom out a little, use the desktop interface, and open messenger from the menu.

It's not smooth and I've had some keyboard issues. Notifications are of course out of the question. But I can talk to people, so I guess that's something...

Additionally, while I also like the port for the Nexus 6P, it was released in 2015 and is therefore more than five years old. I also can't speak for the reliability of SMS and phone calls as it's not my daily driver.

If you want a new device the Volla phone ($450) might be worth looking into?

@flohack It's quick to reconnect even after reboots now, while earlier I could never make it work at all. So there is truly something that has snapped into place the device.

Not much help for those experiencing problems though - sorry I don't have anything more valuable to add based on my experience!

Mine didn't use to work, but now it's pretty reliable. I once made it connect this summer, no luck since before last week. I changed the battery and kept the GPS open for a while, and suddenly it's working.

Did it learn where to look after randomly finding a signal twice? Did I accidentaly push the antenna back into place when changing the battery somehow? Was there a change on the devel channel that made the difference?

I don't know, but it didn't work at all, and now it does.

@ubuntutouchfan I think the best option to avoid 'www trackers' on smartphones at the moment is FireFox for mobile, which offers a lot of security settings and of course is fully open source. So while Ubuntu Touch/Morph browser is by no means bad, Android or iOS with FireFox might have a slight edge still.

I should mention I know nothing about more advanced security measures - you could probably just use Tor and sleep easily.