My daily driver is a FP4 with waydroid actively running at all times. This works but comes with a few caveats:

• with light phone usage overall I get ~10-12hrs battery life
• battery life varies drastically between any waydroid update, +- a few hours
• when locking the screen make sure any other app is in the foreground (e.g. the calendar). Not sure what's going on exactly but keeping waydroid active in the foreground costs a lot more battery life

@arubislander said in split dns/routing for personal vpn:

@gandalf Not sure about any answer to your questions, but I would suggest you research if what you want is possible on Ubuntu Desktop with NetworManager. If it is, then teh same setup should be transferable to Ubuntu Touch, as the VPN technology used is the same.

Thanks for the suggestions. I've set up openvpn and the import in UT worked without troubles.

Split dns works quite well;

• the openvpn server needs to push the default domain (eg. mylan for any server.mylan to work).
• In the vpn settings on UT select "Use this VPN for: [ x ] Its own network
• it also works in combination with the wifi hotspot (FP4), I can access my server by its domain without any changes to the laptop network settings.

tbd: keep alive, auto-reconnect, and maybe a kill switch for the local domain

@peat_psuwit said in On the subject of Ubuntu Touch versioning scheme:

We've considered 24.04 OTA-x.y. Unfortunately, (re-)using the word OTA could set the wrong expectation; by using the word OTA, many users will expect incremental, frequent updates (AKA rolling release).

Don't worry, users will expect unicorn rainbow farts anyway and while updates are a bit slow, technically UT is a rolling release

I'm really sorry that you have this sentiment. I also don't want to change the versioning scheme, but both the technical and practical reasons forced us to re-think how we will version Ubuntu Touch.

Don't be, it was mostly a joke, and, while I may not fully agree with the reasoning, it is overall a pretty minor change. I've been on the other side of this experience plenty of times. As a user I get upset about minor changes because they make up a much "larger" part of the user experience vs the experience as a developer where this is an "insignificant" side quest compared to all the development work actually being done

Also compare this change to the hot mess that is the current naming schemes from both intel and AMD

@peat_psuwit said in On the subject of Ubuntu Touch versioning scheme:

In the Board of Trustees meeting on 4th February, I've brought the release version numbering up as a discussion topic. The attendees considered the comments on this post and have agreed that it's important to still reference Ubuntu version in our versioning scheme, while it would be beneficial development-wise to have a major-minor release system in place.

As such, we've come up with a versioning scheme of "Ubuntu Touch [Ubuntu version]-[release version]" (a variant of option 3). For example, the next version of Ubuntu Touch would be referred to as "Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.0".

We believe this versioning scheme is both understandable and practical.

I know I'm too late to the party; but if you're already staying this close to the current naming scheme why not go all the way to 24.04 OTA-1.0? Everyone is familiar with that naming convention already, and introducing a minor version number is "backwards" compatible by calling every previous OTA-x.0 if needed. And soon when UT reaches version parity with ubuntu 24.04 the colloquial OTA-x(.y) will be back in action offering an easy shortcut to identify the current release.

Aka I'm getting old and grumpy, but I really can't stand the relentless reshuffling of naming schemes that usually offer no improvement and just increase the mental load on trying to figure out wtf is going on again

I haven't run into the crash lomiri bug as I always close any app priori to rebooting just to make sure I don't dismiss anything important... I semi regularly reboot as there seems to be some buggy interaction between phone calls in UT and voice/video calls in whatsapp/waydroid :man_shrugging:

Hi all

A quick and tiny proposal; I've regularly accessed a blog posts directly form a search engine and then had to search around to find out when it was posted (aka is it recent or not). For example the announcement for RC-7. The date is there on the News page but that takes time to leave and search for the title (if it's not directly visible). Can I suggest adding the posting date to blog articles?

Thanks for your considerations and work :smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:

p.s. equally irrelevant remark; the default sorting order for the emojis being alphabetical has the unfortunate side effect of putting all the happy faces far down the list and segregating all the :man_ :woman_ variants into distinct blocks (among other shuffling oddities)

Hi all

Small question for a small inconvenience; When rebooting my phone (FP4) it takes quite some time to shutdown before the android/unlocked bootloader splash screen shows up. On the order of 30s to a full minute. When I install an update though the restart is near instant the moment I click on install. Simple question, why?

Thanks :waving_hand:

Hi all

I'm looking into setting up an (always-on) vpn access to my home network. To that end I have a few questions.

• (1) Does UT support split routing based on the domain / "resolved IP"? Say the vpn is reachable at vpn.example.com, is it possible to resolve and send all requests for *.example.com through that vpn conenction, but nothing else?
• (2) What does "Use this VPN for" -> "its own network" in the vpn setup page do? Is that based on the IP range of the vpn network/gateway or on the domain?
• (3) I found this guide to potentially enable an always-on connection. is there a way to also enable a kill switch to block/timeout connections to *.example.com when the vpn is inactive?
• (4) If the above setup works, would that allow mutliple vpn connections to live side by side (assuming distinct ip ranges)?

Thanks in advance :waving_hand:

Hi all

I have a pair of Sennheiser Momentum 4 BT headphones and they work great for music or calls in waydroid. Unfortunately whenever I try to make or receive an actual phone call they get disconnected from UT.

Is this a known issue or (more likely) specific to this combination of FP4 + Momentum4?

Thanks in advance :waving_hand:

I got pyclip installed but it's not enough or working. Don't do this at home

I'm on a fairphone 4 / OTA1 and followed this bug report https://github.com/waydroid/waydroid/issues/309

cd Downloads
wget https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py
sudo python3 get-pip.py --prefix=/usr/local
sudo pip install pyclip
sudo apt-get update
sudo install wl-clipboard

Starting waydroid removes all these errors:

waydroidclipboard: Received transaction: 2
Could not setup clipboard

But copy/paste still doesn't work. It does crash the apps I tried it with (firefox/whatsapp). Then again copy-paste between firefox and whatsapp doesn't seem to work at all without those packages installed either...

@TheBird That worked, thanks for the confirmation

Hi all

I recently saw a notification from the "Waydroid Updater" to install a new image inside of waydroid itself. Can this be done from within waydroid or should I update the image from outside directly? And do I need to set r/w flags for the filesystem before attempting the upate?

thanks

for whatsapp you can either use whatsapp web, or use waydroid and run whatsapp in there. Battery life is on the order of 15-20hrs with light use and waydroid always running. You can probably run whatsapp web and just use waydroid to verify the login qr-code (beware the need to get the qr-code in front of the camera )

@kugiigi
correct, the pin entry does not need any confirmation after enough digits are entered. So once the screen is on any random touches on the numpad will lead to a string of login attempts.

@lduboeuf
I have both the greeter and the launcher disabled. it's possible that I failed to enter the pin on the full keyboard as I was a bit rushed.

In any case, given that the bootloader needs to stay unlocked and UT not does support encrypting the home partition(?), I don't think the possible limit bypass by pulling the battery is a large security issue, but it was also not the expected behaviour

Hi all

I managed to activate the screen of my FP4 in my pocket and have it do a few pin entries. The phone locked up displaying a password entry field. Is that supposed to be a different password from the pin I use to normally access the phone?
I entered the pin and was greeted with a message about too many attempts and the phone locking for 5 minutes. I pulled the battery, rebooted, and got in with my pin normally.
I then rebooted the phone due to bluetooth not working properly, and was greeted with the "too many login attempts" message again and had to wait out the last minute of the 5 minute timeout. That seems a bit out of order?

p.s.(a) for any FP4 owner: when pulling the battery make sure your micro-sd didn't come loose... re-seating the battery is a perfect way to guillotine your sd card... ask me how I found out :man_facepalming:

@Darkice
I had the same issue with the music app. Default apps get hidden when uninstalling them and don't get properly unhidden upon reinstallation:
https://forums.ubports.com/topic/8851/can-t-re-install-the-music-app/

Hi all

Simple question spoilered by the title: What's the current state for backups on Focal? Are there any backup utilities available, and if not, what parts need to be backed up besides the obvious docs/pictures/etc folders?

cheers

@arubislander @kugiigi
Okay, thanks for the info. Those errors messages and symptoms look a bit disconnected from what's going on, but I got the player back

are you on 16.04/xenial or 20.04/focal? There's a recent thread for focal about advanced wifi security not working here with eduroam as the example (though no solution/answer either):
https://forums.ubports.com/topic/8790/wifi-with-advanced-security-options-is-broken-in-ota-1-and-devel

@kugiigi
Yes, no, and finally yes again . I was able to remove and immediately reinstall a few apps (calculator, doc viewer, uVolMan). I then removed the calculator and rebooted the phone. I could no longer reinstall the calculator. When browsing the storage to find where the apps are stored and to see if there was anything left behind I came across this though:

root@ubuntu-phablet:/opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet# ls -l
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 phablet phablet 7 Apr 13 12:39 calculator.ubports -> @hidden
lrwxrwxrwx 1 phablet phablet 7 Apr  5 23:53 music.ubports -> @hidden

I was able to reinstall the calculator app after removing the calculator.ubports entry:

cd /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet
rm calculator.ubports
rm music.ubports

For the music app I just removed the entry and rebooted. The Music app re-appeared again and is working :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Does that mean removing apps just hides them from the default phablet user and reinstalling fails to remove that hiding flag?