Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation

Lakotaubp

Are you planning a mix of the two or using parts of this https://open-store.io/app/unlockertest.ld Testeed on 3a running Focal

AppLee

Hi @lduboeuf

Thanks for the work you're doing Lionel
I would use the same UX as for password/passphrase with an empty text field.
At each strike you add a dot to give the user feedback on what they typed.

Also the OK/Enter button is fine for me.

Addendum:
Thoughts for the future
For security reasons I would also merge password UI and PIN UI.
I would add a screen asking the user to swipe left or right to get to the alphanum keyboard or the numerical pad...

Keneda

@applee
Good proposal.
Forget my post @lduboeuf

Jakub

Option to disable visibility of dots or one big dot looks great, also I would add an option to enable/disable auto unlock (without pressing OK button), I personally prefer when phone unlocks right after entering correct PIN without additional key press, because it seems more intuitive.

lduboeuf

@lakotaubp said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

Are you planning a mix of the two or using parts of this https://open-store.io/app/unlockertest.ld Testeed on 3a running Focal

The circle prompt is another story, but i prepared it for the no limit number of digits too.

jezek

Sometimes, when unlocking the screen, the keyboard doesn't show up. Then after clicking on the empty dots, the keyboard pops up. So, when removing them, there should be some visual hint that indicates where to click if the keyboard didn't pop up by accident.

lduboeuf

@jezek said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

Sometimes, when unlocking the screen, the keyboard doesn't show up. Then after clicking on the empty dots, the keyboard pops up. So, when removing them, there should be some visual hint that indicates where to click if the keyboard didn't pop up by accident.

Yes known issue, so i've added "enter PIN" to replace the empty dots. And try to display " Tap to enter pin" when un focused. But i have to dig a bit more. Because un focus is also when user just logged in or user start to drag on indicator, and should only be displayed if no physical keyboard.

The best would be to tacckle that focus issue...

lduboeuf

By discussing this on the TG Q&A group, it appears it is hard to have a mutual agreement.
Some people want a more "secure" login some want user friendly UX.

So i will try to add an option, to not change actual behavior, i would add opt-out auto-login option.
We can still remove the dots placeholder at least an replace it with a text.

Keneda

@lduboeuf said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

Some people want a more "secure" login some want user friendly UX.

That's why user choice in security options would be the best (from actual behavior, 4 digits, dots, and no need to push enter, to the most secure one with 12 digits, text field, and push enter).

kugiigi

Set the minimum to 3 so 3 digits + enter would be like it is now

Mario.CH

Happy New Year! :3️⃣1️⃣1️⃣

Hi @lduboeuf
In all variants, the design should be such that the user has the possibility to recognize if the touche screen has a defect. With age or much used the touche screen function gets gaps, and this should be recognized by the user. It is not always about whether something looks great.

Regards Mario

klh

@keneda That's how you end up with "password123" everywhere. Not everyone stores sensitive data on their phone + as long as the bootloader is unlocked and data unencrypted any point about security is moot

Keneda

@klh
Don't understand why you tell me that

klh

@keneda Oh, I misunderstood your post as recommending the 12 character, text field and manual submit as the requirements for the screen lock, sorry

Josele13

@lduboeuf Thanks for your work, after thinking twice, at startup would be to put an empty circle blinking, as you fill with the key the empty circle and blinking moves forward, when you finish with the key the filled circles stop and opens directly the screen lock.

Regards...

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lduboeuf

@josele13 yes that's an idea ;-).
I think i will just start with the less possible change. Meaning just allowing more than 4 digits and no change regarding UX ( empty dots that have the length of expected pin code and auto-login ).
Improvement can come afterward.

crumpets

I love this idea. Im very used to 6 diget codes nowadays so id love this to come to ubuntu touch.