French ID app interoperability.

AmauryDBZ

@DJac I also wrote to them today

pparent

Well I guess this type of gouvernemental organization will not be interested in individual feedback of individual, but it is consulting some associations, so with a lot of luck fondations like Ubports might have a word to say.

Keneda

@pparent

Shouldn't this franco-frenchy thread better be in https://forums.ubports.com/category/133/french-francais section of the forum ?

wgarcia

@Keneda I think this is of general interest, at least for all European Union countries. We all suffer from the imposition by public authorities of services/procedures which can only be done in Android/IOS devices, sometimes even requiring non-rooted devices. If a private firm does it, well, it's their choice and we can choose not to buy from them, but if a government does it it's affecting our freedom.

domubpkm

French

DJac

@domubpkm for shure... but if nobody demand for, they will never work to adapt an other OS.
the more we ask for it, the more the work on it.

domubpkm

@DJac For that, I don't believe it. Community too small. No point wasting development and maintenance resources. All this comes at an unprofitable cost. The first step for institutions to think about it would be for the OS to be distributed pre-installed on a large scale.
Personal opinion.

pparent

@domubpkm said in French ID app interoperability.:

@DJac For that, I don't believe it. Community too small. No point wasting development and maintenance resources.

I do not agree:

First because interoperability is a legal requirement for public services, especially those supposed to be universal like ID. And they replied to me that they agreed on the goal of interoperability, were sorry about the issue, and were looking for solutions. ( https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2024/903/oj/eng )
Second because the french gouvernement is currently actively trying to reduce its dependency to foreign company (see above), in this case Apple, and Google who would have monopoly over a strategic state function as vital as identity, if this were to become a central way to verify identity.
Third because they don't need to develop a solution specific for Ubuntu Touch: they can release an App based on Qt framework, that with principally the same code will work on Windows, Mac, Linux Desktop, Android, iOS, and all Linux Mobile distributions (Ubuntu Touch, Mobian, postmarkeOs, SailfishOs, ect...); or even they can make a progressive webapp that nowadays can be compatible with NFC and will be universally compatible.

If we feel defeated before we even start the fight, or even send a short email, we will probably not go very far.

Edit: "The first step for institutions to think about it would be for the OS to be distributed pre-installed on a large scale. " -> On the other hand they will probably not do that because the state does not like this role to have direct influance on markets and choices of consumers.

Keneda

@domubpkm
Why would french (and European ?) banks have the obligation to provide smartphone agnostic solution for online banking payment security, and institutional agencies not ?

https://www.caisse-epargne.fr/comptes-cartes/securisez-vos-moyens-de-paiement-sur-internet/

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domubpkm

@pparent I do not question any of these rational arguments ..