Warning About a Sneaky Spamming Method in This Forum and How to Detect and Counter It

[domubpkm]

@libremax I end up wondering if AI isn't interfering with spam !

[gpatel-fr]

@libremax said:

Never reply to these topics or messages

this is the standard advice, don't feed the troll. Unfortunately, either there is an university for trolls or they are always reinventing the counter-measure, they are replying to themselves using another alias to fake a real discussion so there is a silver bullet for vampires but none for trolls

[libremax]

@gpatel-fr Yes, it's a standard advice but we do not respect it in the last months and mostly because people seems not to detect "troll".
It's why I suggested a method quick and easy to detect and counter it adapted to our forum functionality around reputation scores.

[libremax]

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[oldbutndy]

@libremax said:

If a topic, reply, or user has a negative (or even very negative) reputation, you should be wary and avoid replying until you’ve made sure it isn’t part of this type of spamming method (or an other type).

I apologize.
I replied yesterday to a post that might have had negative reputation (I don't remember), because I did not think about trolls.
I just saw a few points made that resonated (I might have even upvoted it).
My post got long.
I tried to acknowledge a few good points, while considering the reality of UT developers doing the best they can on existing (mostly old) hardware.

[libremax]

@oldbutndy said:

I apologize.

No need to

I replied yesterday to a post that might have had negative reputation (I don't remember), because I did not think about trolls.

Unfortunately you were no the only one and it keeps going on today.

That's why I post this topic.
To try to mitigate this kind of "spam/troll" by warning about negative reputation.

[grenudi]

@libremax said:

to detect "troll".
It's why I suggested a method quick and easy to detect and counter it adapted to our forum functionality around reputation scores.

Before it were jews and how to spot them, and put a red band to them, now trolls. Dont forget people behind your own constructed labels on them, or its not far fetched when you conclude that "trolls" a basically not human and its ok to kill them, even admirable "clean the sociaty of those untermenchen".

Its ok to be hurt or offended, you can talk about it with someone you trust or just a perfect stranger, it gets easier and there is no need to hide or try to hurt someone in return. Its ok. You are fine.

[libremax]

@domubpkm said:

@libremax I end up wondering if AI isn't interfering with spam !

I don't know, but in any case, without moderation, the situation keeps getting worse to the point that I'm going to stop visiting the forum for a while.
Fortunately, on the UBports Telegram channels, such behavior isn't possible because it's immediately addressed.

[grenudi]

@libremax said:

I'm going to stop visiting the forum for a while.

Its allright. You also can ignore and not participate in discussions you dont like.
Clearly you are talking about me. And all that spam talk "be vigilant" is only from my precedence.
When ppl cross boundries, become offensive, they get muted or even banned.
There is already moderation, it its already works. I was muted, I know.

Just because the topic contains something you dont like, or you dont like the speaker for some personal reasons, does not mean that everyone now has to mark this as spam. Its allright, you can just ignore what you dislike, its ok.

I did some offensive remarks about community back in my first posts. Got negative rep from them and moderators @moem @arubislander were more than generous to let me talk it out before muting me. It was very helpful expirience that led to understanding that i can just walk by and its ok.

So anyway, @moem @arubislander (sorry i dont know any other moderators) if my current behavior is inappropriate for this forum, you can ban or mute me right now and end this despute. It's ok, I'll just walk by, according to my own advise
If our paths dont really align, its ok for me, no hard feelings

ps
@libremax dont take it all that serious. I have nothing against you. Life is alright as it is, dont waste your time angrying at me, or angry this all out and continue your adventure in this wonderland, dont waste too much time and efforts on "haters". Ubuntu touch works, android works, windows, linux, whatever, the world has not came off its axis, its all allright, you are valuable as you are, no need to confirm it, no need to defend it, its an established fact by your own existence, you have rights, you have a place in the world, you are needed, no need to fight for it, its all here, everything already the way it should be. It allright

[Lakotaubp]

@grenudi I think your reference point and association in this case is so far off the mark I find it hard to believe the comparison could even be made. I suggest you stop now and leave it well alone. It is offensive on so many levels and factually inaccurate do not repeat it.
Also I have no inclination to stop the discussion you started in your original post as some points are worth discussion. However we ask that repeating the same point across numerous threads is not done as confusing, distracting and frankly annoying.
Please if you wish refer back to the original post with a link in other threads if you must but stop starting new ones or repeating at length in others the same point. Thank you.

[grenudi]

@Lakotaubp i hear you

[grenudi]

@Lakotaubp @moem @arubislander off topic, but since i can not messare anyone even reply, i write here.

@linus67 please côntact these ppl @Lakotaubp @moem @arubislander about the issue that you can not post any of your posts. It was a pleasure to read about your journey into all of this. Thank you.

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now to answer you @oldbutndy (sorry, I cannot reply in messages). claude has the most extensive free use tokens, I suggest you to use it for free for now, also there is one more week of free 2x more use, even without subscription if you use it outside of high load hours (ask claud when is that ). And then decide do you need more or not. To my experience this is the only powerful llm that has'nt choked free use, that crushes free geminy and gpt with a firm foot, so much that you will not want to use them for anything except simple translations and simplest lookups. Maybe there is even beter llms out there, I dont know you can research it with claude Sometimes I think why even talk to ppl at all, when there is such llms but they are echo chambers, just like ppl, but smaller and more comforting, so ppl still win.
In case of using it for code, I want to advise you not to expect it to do all the work for you, which with right dedication and variations of methods I've described, it actually can, but you'll end up an addict like me who will not be able to do anything without consulting "the mastermind" first . So if it helps, use it to explain the code, what you need to know to unerstand it yourself, to create boilerplates from best architectures and explain why their are best and give links to solid material about it and so on. But if you dont want to bother with all that, I personally think its ok to ask for a complete solution, just like you order a burger without sticking your fingers into the shefs stove, only hindrence is that not knowing the code you can not rely on spotting problems before they ocurre, and walk back and fourth to the thing with your test results, but again, you can insruct it to polish the code so good that even knowing it you will still have to test, but on free version there is not enough tokens for that. thats all I understand at this point.
ah, also its geting high use lately, and I've noticed, that when you get lost connection, or cannot finish a reply, or the page just freezes, its useful to not hit redo button, just wait 2-5 min depending on the task , and refresh the page. It may have done the work in the background but ui lags behind. Not much of an expert. Good luck!

ps
I'd feed that message entirely to claude, and ask what he thinks of it. Thats how much reliant on it I became