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      Lakotaubp @orthocube
      last edited by 9 Nov 2019, 08:41

      @orthocube Have a look here https://forums.ubports.com/topic/3334/pinephone-tutorial/3

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        AppLee @orthocube
        last edited by 9 Nov 2019, 11:46

        @orthocube,
        Quick answer : the installer is a convenience for end users to facilitate flashing a device.

        For "more advanced" users who wants to debug and help testing the method will be closer to development methods.
        But in case of the PinePhone it will be quite easy first steps are the same as installing an OS for the raspberry pi ; flashing a SD card with dd command. Then I guess there will be something like a bootloader allowing to boot from the SD card or to flash the device using the image on SD card.

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          Lakotaubp
          last edited by Lakotaubp 11 Sept 2019, 11:53 9 Nov 2019, 11:52

          UniSuperBox 4 days ago

          Download the rootfs image from https://ci.ubports.com/job/rootfs/job/rootfs-pinephone/
          1 Extract and write the image to an SD card
          2 Plug SD card into phone
          3 Boot phone

          That should do it.

          Copied from @Universalsuperbox post in the other thread, how to get OS on to PinePhone

          https://forums.ubports.com/topic/3334/pinephone-tutorial/3

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            orthocube @AppLee
            last edited by orthocube 11 Sept 2019, 15:21 9 Nov 2019, 15:19

            @AppLee @Lakotaubp

            Thanks for the reply, and I'm sorry for the dumb question XD

            I was wandering around the UBPorts website looking for a download link to the image so I thought it isn't available to the public. Tried searching Google too, but didn't find that information.

            (Download link seems to be down at the moment but I imagine it'll be up again anytime soon.)
            Thanks again!

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              AppLee @orthocube
              last edited by 9 Nov 2019, 17:55

              @orthocube There is no such thing as a dumb question 😉

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                GizmoChicken @PINE64
                last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 07:20

                @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

                The following is just my guess: most users will end up using either UT or SailfishOS. At least initially.

                UT or SailfishOS? I know that the Pinephone already allows for booting a secondary system from an SD card, which is cool. But how about offering a way to multi-boot from internal storage? That would be super cool. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

                Down the road I think that Replicant will have a big install base.

                Yep. And although I won't score many upvotes for saying so, if I owned a Pinephone, provided I had an easy way to install and boot both, I'd probably install Ubuntu Touch and Replicant (Android) to the internal storage. I'd use UT whenever practical. But I'd likely need to boot into Replicant at least occasionally until Anbox is better supported.

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                  kugiigi @GizmoChicken
                  last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 07:23

                  @GizmoChicken I would assume though that this will be easier to do but I don't know the technicalities so I might be wrong. But I agree that it would be cool to multi-boot. 16GB of internal storage can be a little low though.
                  My 32GB Nexus 5 has Android, Sailfish OS and 3 UT and it's almost full 😅

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                    AppLee @kugiigi
                    last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 08:42

                    @kugiigi 16GB for android is a very narrow storage.
                    System requires at least 5GB and apps take a huge lot, for few apps you can count 6GB for your data and alternative OS that's not enough.
                    Moving apps to SD card is not always possible on android and there's still data stored on the main internal storage.

                    But I agree multiboot would be a cool feature, but I guess for later "special edition".

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                      GizmoChicken
                      last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 09:09

                      @AppLee said in PinePhone:

                      @kugiigi 16GB for android is a very narrow storage.

                      I think that's the point that @kugiigi was making. And I agree with both of you. 🙂

                      Even so, I think that a way to multi-boot from internal storage (even if only 16GB at present) should be offered in the initial model, or as soon as possible, as a proof-of-concept. If successful, PinePhone will have more incentive to offer upgraded models with larger internal storage.

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                        makeixo
                        last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 09:11

                        I have thought that you can boot a system from the SD Card as well.

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                          GizmoChicken @makeixo
                          last edited by 12 Nov 2019, 09:15

                          @makeixo said in PinePhone:

                          I have thought that you can boot a system from the SD Card as well.

                          Yes, you can boot the PinePhone from an SD card. But SD cards are typically slower, and less reliable, than internal storage.

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                            GizmoChicken
                            last edited by GizmoChicken 14 Nov 2019, 01:22

                            Question: Will libhybris be required for running UT on the PinePhone?

                            I'm under the impression that libhybris will not be required for running UT on the PinePhone, but maybe I'm wrong. I hope someone will confirm here with certainty.

                            EDIT: According to this post, libhybris is, indeed, not required for running UT on the PinePhone. Yippie! :relieved_face:

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                              PINE64
                              last edited by 15 Nov 2019, 11:44

                              Hi all,
                              For those of you happy to help with development and testing, the PinePhone early batch (Brave Heart) edition are now available on our store. Do note: if you want an end-user ready phone DO NOT buy it.

                              Open. Friendly. Community Driven.

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                                domubpkm @PINE64
                                last edited by 15 Nov 2019, 12:11

                                @PINE64 Please, can you give more details or clarify this:

                                « Small numbers (1-3) of stuck or dead pixels are a characteristic of LCD screens. These are normal and should not be considered a defect. »

                                You mean: every third pixel?

                                Is it all about the phones or is it just the «fruit of chance » ?

                                Does this defective pixel characteristic only concern this edition or will it also concern the completed edition in March?

                                Thank you.

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                                  PINE64 @domubpkm
                                  last edited by 15 Nov 2019, 12:34

                                  @domubpkm honestly, it doesn't mean anything. I am yet to see a single person complain about dead pixels on the Pinebook / Pro or any other LCD display we've shipped. But its a 1-1000 chance (actual stats) that there will be a dead pixel on a shipped unit, and we cannot control this, and we won't replace units with a dead pixel.

                                  Open. Friendly. Community Driven.

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                                    AppLee @PINE64
                                    last edited by 15 Nov 2019, 12:38

                                    @PINE64 Yeah \o/
                                    I refreshed my browser all morning until could place an order :star-struck:

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                                      A Former User @PINE64
                                      last edited by 15 Nov 2019, 12:40

                                      @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

                                      ... the PinePhone early batch (Brave Heart) edition are now available on our store.

                                      WOOT! WOOT!! What a glorious day it is.

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                                        Giiba
                                        last edited by 15 Nov 2019, 14:09

                                        I am feeling brave and my OPO has been dropped too many times for comfort, so I decided why the heck not...

                                        It'll be my first new phone since I bought a Nexus 5 back in the stone ages!

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                                          A Former User
                                          last edited by 15 Nov 2019, 17:54

                                          I just ordered mine. I'm looking forward to have a device that doesn't require me to go through the backup/downgrade/test/upgrade cycle when I'm testing LuneOS. Now I'll have the option to try out UBports, Sailfish, postmarketOS, and whatever else comes along too. Should be fun!

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                                            Marathon2422
                                            last edited by 15 Nov 2019, 21:35

                                            i ordered one,( once the website worked.)
                                            i am hoping some of the experienced guys,
                                            will put up screenshots of terminals commands ,and maybe a place to find "stickies" for the best way to do things

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