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Lately, I've noticed both the Morph & Sapot web browsers keep quitting.

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      Bolly @Opolork
      last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 08:33

      @opolork, you can try switching off and on, it is not the same as rebooting.

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        kugiigi @RedXXIII
        last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 08:41

        @redxxiii Sadly, RAM is indeed a factor. Webviews seem to take a lot of memory though ideally the browser/app itself shouldn't close. Morph and Sapot tries to unload tabs but sometimes it's not enough.

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          domubpkm
          last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 09:40

          We now have the last update of Ubuntu Info (Walking-Octopus) with task manager to see the RAM consumption.
          screenshot20220926_112752624.png
          A usefull tool, thanks to Walking-Octopus.

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            Opolork @MrT10001
            last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:00

            @mrt10001 said in Lately, I've noticed both the Morph & Sapot web browsers keep quitting.:

            @opolork Have you rebooted the device and then cleared the browser cache? Have you removed and reinstalled the browsers? Have you checked for updates?

            Hi MrT10001. I did all of those bar clearing the browser cache - I see no option in either web browser for that. I didn't uninstall/reinstall Morph since it's no longer in the Open Store.

            How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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              Opolork @domubpkm
              last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:01

              @domubpkm Hi. I don't run the dev channel.

              How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                Opolork @kugiigi
                last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:02

                @kugiigi said in Lately, I've noticed both the Morph & Sapot web browsers keep quitting.:

                @opolork What options are you referring to?

                Hi. The settings in the web browsers.

                How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                  Opolork @Keneda
                  last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:02

                  @keneda said in Lately, I've noticed both the Morph & Sapot web browsers keep quitting.:

                  @opolork
                  Did you change lomiri scaling in UTTT ?

                  Hi. No. Should I?

                  How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                    Opolork @RedXXIII
                    last edited by Opolork 26 Sept 2022, 16:03

                    @redxxiii said in Lately, I've noticed both the Morph & Sapot web browsers keep quitting.:

                    Morph is not usable anymore

                    Hi. I agree.

                    How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                      Opolork @RedXXIII
                      last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:03

                      @redxxiii said in Lately, I've noticed both the Morph & Sapot web browsers keep quitting.:

                      I m now using a fp3+ and there is no comparison as this device is new and powerful.

                      Does the torch work? Anything not working properly in the FP3?

                      How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                        Opolork @Bolly
                        last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:04

                        @bolly said in Lately, I've noticed both the Morph & Sapot web browsers keep quitting.:

                        @opolork, you can try switching off and on, it is not the same as rebooting.

                        Done. No change.

                        How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                          Opolork @kugiigi
                          last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:04

                          @kugiigi said in Lately, I've noticed both the Morph & Sapot web browsers keep quitting.:

                          @redxxiii Sadly, RAM is indeed a factor. Webviews seem to take a lot of memory though ideally the browser/app itself shouldn't close. Morph and Sapot tries to unload tabs but sometimes it's not enough.

                          Web browsing is painfully slow.

                          How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                            RedXXIII @Opolork
                            last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:06

                            @opolork i did a wipe installation with my fp2 but nothing changed... That is why I think it is related to the hardware being old. But I can t prove that 😅

                            Fairphone 3+ / BQ Aquaris M10 FHD / BQ Aquaris E5

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                              RedXXIII @Opolork
                              last edited by 26 Sept 2022, 16:13

                              @opolork the torch works! That is amazing after years using the fp2 🙂 anything that do not work properly with the fp2 is working well with the fp3. And the battery is amazing! But you will have some bugs. GPS can take some time to locate you. Pure maps use to freeze so you may have to reboot the app several times before routing. Display can be laggy sometimes but not a big deal. The worst bug is the lic not being useable by the apps after a phone call. You need to reboot the phone prior to take a video. But there is a workaround with a smart script that works well. I need to try it. That s all I can think now !

                              Fairphone 3+ / BQ Aquaris M10 FHD / BQ Aquaris E5

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                                Emphrath
                                last edited by 27 Sept 2022, 00:10

                                Morph also crashing on pixel 3a as of today. A lot of webapps (Gmail for example) crash as well so it has to be related to qtwebengine. I m writing this on Waydroid browser... will reboot and report

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                                  kugiigi @Emphrath
                                  last edited by 27 Sept 2022, 00:36

                                  @emphrath Are you on devel?

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                                    Keneda @Opolork
                                    last edited by Keneda 27 Sept 2022, 00:53

                                    @opolork
                                    No.
                                    Just there are issues causing morph crashing with some scalings in certain situations.
                                    See here and also 311 and 312 :
                                    https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/morph-browser/-/issues/310

                                    I had this 310 issue on settings crashing morph on OTA 11, gone on OTA 12, but i don't know how this was sorted, maybe a comeback lol.

                                    Still having 311 an 312, so i reverted back my scaling.

                                    Edit : there are also other grid values that can crash morph https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/morph-browser/-/issues/535

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                                      Emphrath @kugiigi
                                      last edited by 27 Sept 2022, 01:19

                                      @kugiigi nope, rc. Anyway a reboot fixed it, so I guess it's some sort of memory leak

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                                        kugiigi @Keneda
                                        last edited by 27 Sept 2022, 01:58

                                        @keneda Those crashes were related to UITK's dialogs/popups. Morph has weird issues and crashes. I wanna try to replace all UITK components in Sapot and see if it reduces or even eliminates these.

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                                          Keneda @kugiigi
                                          last edited by 27 Sept 2022, 02:00

                                          @kugiigi
                                          Not the 310 one i believe, as entering settings in morph, doesn't involve popup i guess.

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                                            kugiigi @Keneda
                                            last edited by 27 Sept 2022, 02:23

                                            @keneda Oh interesting, I didn't know that has been a known issue. Never encountered it myself, only for the dialogs like Downloads and Bookmarks.

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