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    Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation

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      • AppLeeA Offline
        AppLee @lduboeuf
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        Hi @lduboeuf

        Thanks for the work you're doing Lionel :thumbs_up: :clapping_hands:
        I would use the same UX as for password/passphrase with an empty text field.
        At each strike you add a dot to give the user feedback on what they typed.

        Also the OK/Enter button is fine for me.

        Addendum:
        Thoughts for the future 🤔
        For security reasons I would also merge password UI and PIN UI.
        I would add a screen asking the user to swipe left or right to get to the alphanum keyboard or the numerical pad...

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        • KenedaK Offline
          Keneda @AppLee
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          @applee
          Good proposal.
          Forget my post @lduboeuf 😅

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          • JakubJ Offline
            Jakub
            last edited by Jakub

            Option to disable visibility of dots or one big dot looks great, also I would add an option to enable/disable auto unlock (without pressing OK button), I personally prefer when phone unlocks right after entering correct PIN without additional key press, because it seems more intuitive.

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            • lduboeufL Offline
              lduboeuf @Lakotaubp
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              @lakotaubp said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

              Are you planning a mix of the two or using parts of this https://open-store.io/app/unlockertest.ld Testeed on 3a running Focal

              The circle prompt is another story, but i prepared it for the no limit number of digits too.

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              • jezekJ Offline
                jezek
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                Sometimes, when unlocking the screen, the keyboard doesn't show up. Then after clicking on the empty dots, the keyboard pops up. So, when removing them, there should be some visual hint that indicates where to click if the keyboard didn't pop up by accident.

                jEzEk

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                • lduboeufL Offline
                  lduboeuf @jezek
                  last edited by

                  @jezek said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

                  Sometimes, when unlocking the screen, the keyboard doesn't show up. Then after clicking on the empty dots, the keyboard pops up. So, when removing them, there should be some visual hint that indicates where to click if the keyboard didn't pop up by accident.

                  Yes known issue, so i've added "enter PIN" to replace the empty dots. And try to display " Tap to enter pin" when un focused. But i have to dig a bit more. Because un focus is also when user just logged in or user start to drag on indicator, and should only be displayed if no physical keyboard.

                  The best would be to tacckle that focus issue...

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                  • lduboeufL Offline
                    lduboeuf @lduboeuf
                    last edited by

                    By discussing this on the TG Q&A group, it appears it is hard to have a mutual agreement.
                    Some people want a more "secure" login some want user friendly UX.

                    So i will try to add an option, to not change actual behavior, i would add opt-out auto-login option.
                    We can still remove the dots placeholder at least an replace it with a text.

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                    • KenedaK Offline
                      Keneda @lduboeuf
                      last edited by Keneda

                      @lduboeuf said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

                      Some people want a more "secure" login some want user friendly UX.

                      That's why user choice in security options would be the best (from actual behavior, 4 digits, dots, and no need to push enter, to the most secure one with 12 digits, text field, and push enter). 😉

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                      • K Offline
                        kugiigi
                        last edited by

                        Set the minimum to 3 so 3 digits + enter would be like it is now 😆

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                        • Mario.CHM Offline
                          Mario.CH @lduboeuf
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                          • klhK Offline
                            klh @Keneda
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                            @keneda That's how you end up with "password123" everywhere. Not everyone stores sensitive data on their phone + as long as the bootloader is unlocked and data unencrypted any point about security is moot 😜

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                              Keneda @klh
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                              @klh
                              Don't understand why you tell me that 😅

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                              • klhK Offline
                                klh @Keneda
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                                @keneda Oh, I misunderstood your post as recommending the 12 character, text field and manual submit as the requirements for the screen lock, sorry 😅

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                                • Josele13J Offline
                                  Josele13 @lduboeuf
                                  last edited by

                                  @lduboeuf Thanks for your work, after thinking twice, at startup would be to put an empty circle blinking, as you fill with the key the empty circle and blinking moves forward, when you finish with the key the filled circles stop and opens directly the screen lock.

                                  Regards...

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                                  • lduboeufL Offline
                                    lduboeuf @Josele13
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                                    @josele13 yes that's an idea ;-).
                                    I think i will just start with the less possible change. Meaning just allowing more than 4 digits and no change regarding UX ( empty dots that have the length of expected pin code and auto-login ).
                                    Improvement can come afterward.

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                                      crumpets
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                                      I love this idea. Im very used to 6 diget codes nowadays so id love this to come to ubuntu touch.

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