One thing that I'm missing in the new site compared to the old one, as a developer, is to be able to have an overview of the stats of all your apps as once.
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RE: Testing Requested for the New OpenStore Website
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RE: Application Blablacar - connexion avec fb
Comme j'ai mis dans la description de l'app pour cela il faut attendre que l'on passe à Qt6. Il faut être patient au niveau de l'upgrade systême, mais je pense qu'on peut maintenant l'espérer d'ici à quelques mois. Ensuite les messages fonctionneront bien!
En attendant tu peux utiliser le Morph Qt6 beta, Min browser, ou Chromium for Ut.
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
@kristatos said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:
sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10
It does not seem to have clear impact on swap loss when importing from camera. I will see if the crash still happens in normal use, with this option in the coming days.
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
@gpatel-fr said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:
I tried to repro on my FP5 without success, but of course there are many differences: other phone, more Ram (I have 8 Gb hence a swap of 4Gb) , I don't use Whatsapp or Signal so all the apps available to share in contentHub are files and messages. After a dozen of shared photos, zero swap, available memory in top goes down by one or two hundred of megabytes, then back up.
Thank's a lot but I not sure to see how you can do it with files apps (or maybe there are import features that I don't know about, but I really don't see where).
Just to make sure I was clear with messages it would be:
1-Open messages app
2-Go to a conversation and click the attachment icon, then image
3-In contentHUb select camera
4-Take your picture and validateI will to some more tests tonight including swapiness.
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
@gpatel-fr said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:
Also do you see kswapd taking a lot of Cpu like in my top ?
No but I did not pay attention either, I will next time.
It's probably the same software and setup for all ports since it's not linked to Android.
But I would be very curious to know if the action that I mentioned previously is reproductible for other VP22 users and non-VP22 users: importing a picture with contentHub directly from camera app to Whatsweb (probably works with another app than whatsweb), does reduce progressively the amount of available swap, when done several times, without any clear reason.
Because on my side it does it reproductibly, it's probably not the only action that triggers that, and it kind of explain why I end up without swap.
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
@gpatel-fr said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:
could you play a little more with 'top' using 'f' and 's' to sort by VIRT or RES to see what is growing exactly, the default sort (Cpu) not being of much use here. If signal-desktop is not the culprit in this case, it may be whatsweb for example.
If you look at the last top I posted I sorted with %MEM which is equivalent than sorted by RES. And there is seemingly no process that eats too much RAM. I've never seen in a top any processes consuming outrageous amount of RAM.
I've also done a df -h , to see if a ramfs could use too much space but I've seen nothing.
As you tell me that "the swap handling is not the 'classical' sort, it's the more advanced type of 'compressed Ram'", I wonder if the swap itself could be buggy?
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
@gpatel-fr said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:
oh, the Ram eater !
Holmes, the game is afoot
Holmes would say that Signal-Desktop sure is an easy culprit but the easy culprit rarely is the real culprit!
In this case Signal has an alibi: I've just been able to reproduce the bug, without starting signal-desktop since boot.
It can be done more or less reproducibility by playing with the camera, and importing pictures to Whatsweb directly from the camera app in contentHub a bunch of times, and recording videos.
But also a new clue arrives in the investigation, I've realized that actually if I give the system a lot of time, like 5 - 15 minutes, without rebooting it, it seems to end up recovering (at least sometime, I will see if it is reproductible), and after the recovery free swap recovers to more or less normal levels in top ( 1268 ) .
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
Ok I think I've found an action that make Ram/Swap disappear magically: import a picture from camera in contentHUB: take a picture and import it directly in contentHub. I've made it various times it a row, until the swap reached 0, and the phone crashed. Here is the last top I got (it was running in background, until it crashed at the same time as the phone interface).
Tasks: 633 total, 1 running, 580 sleeping, 2 stopped, 50 zombie %Cpu(s): 8.8 us, 22.7 sy, 0.0 ni, 32.2 id, 35.1 wa, 0.0 hi, 1.2 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 3498.4 total, 359.3 free, 2822.9 used, 250.4 buff/cache MiB Swap: 1924.1 total, 3.1 free, 1921.0 used. 675.5 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 3415 phablet 20 0 6163912 373664 279220 S 6.8 10.4 34:50.99 lomiri 17763 phablet 20 0 4100244 290944 173152 S 9.0 8.1 4:20.49 qmlscene 17888 phablet 20 0 14.4g 160896 9724 S 9.3 4.5 9:20.91 QtWebEngineProc 24419 phablet 20 0 1867740 83372 49932 S 12.2 2.3 0:07.12 lomiri-camera-a 22255 phablet 20 0 196.3g 68524 24476 S 2.9 1.9 4:10.62 signal-desktop 4854 phablet 20 0 2283820 50280 48904 S 0.0 1.4 1:42.24 maliit-server 5103 phablet 20 0 2132348 40060 40060 T 0.0 1.1 1:53.34 lomiri-system-s 22974 phablet 20 0 2640604 39232 39232 T 0.0 1.1 0:05.26 lomiri-clock-ap 24521 phablet 20 0 9734284 33260 0 S 5.5 0.9 0:00.94 QtWebEngineProc 22221 phablet 20 0 32.5g 24884 23172 S 0.0 0.7 2:05.98 signal-desktop 21580 phablet 20 0 278376 20920 20100 S 0.0 0.6 0:35.24 Xwayland 2551 1047 20 0 11.8g 17060 2724 S 21.5 0.5 8:33.31 camerahalserver 22131 phablet 20 0 204.3g 10172 0 S 0.6 0.3 1:36.64 signal-desktop 3241 phablet 20 0 1888500 3672 88 S 0.0 0.1 0:53.64 media-hub-serve 4857 phablet 20 0 405916 3272 2396 S 1.0 0.1 0:18.51 lomiri-indicato 4858 phablet 20 0 2666196 2948 0 S 0.3 0.1 0:34.58 lomiri-push-ser 2817 phablet 20 0 12140 2752 0 S 0.0 0.1 0:27.39 dbus-daemon 23320 phablet 20 0 57096 2584 1340 R 2.3 0.1 0:12.16 top 1576 message+ 20 0 12588 2040 0 S 0.3 0.1 5:42.26 dbus-daemon 2148 root 20 0 1214388 1948 88 S 3.2 0.1 17:47.24 lomiri-system-c 2807 phablet 9 -11 3893872 1660 84 S 0.0 0.0 3:10.13 pulseaudio 1832 root 20 0 364824 1616 0 S 0.3 0.0 1:45.96 upowerd 4805 phablet 20 0 688412 1528 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:10.97 lomiri-content- 2465 phablet 20 0 22468 1516 56 S 0.0 0.0 0:17.06 systemd 1 root 20 0 23992 1500 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:58.76 systemd 2368 system 20 0 10.5g 1496 96 S 0.3 0.0 0:09.51 mtkpower@1.0-se 1107 root 20 0 10.5g 1196 532 S 1.9 0.0 0:43.22 init 2520 1013 20 0 11.0g 952 132 S 4.5 0.0 0:44.70 minimediaservicAt reboot with the same apps opened I have a lot more "free" swap:
MiB Mem : 3498.4 total, 149.3 free, 2738.0 used, 889.3 buff/cache MiB Swap: 1924.1 total, 1833.6 free, 90.5 used. 760.4 avail Mem -
RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
Actually there is a very strange phenomenon as I navigate in Signal-Destkop (without doing anything else that navigating in the menu) then the Ram used by signal desktop increases rapidly:
%Cpu(s): 9.9 us, 2.1 sy, 0.0 ni, 87.5 id, 0.1 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.4 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 3498.4 total, 368.6 free, 2913.7 used, 793.1 buff/cache MiB Swap: 1924.1 total, 752.5 free, 1171.7 used. 584.7 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 22255 phablet 20 0 196.7g 649492 519052 S 46.4 18.1 1:19.36 signal-desktop 3415 phablet 20 0 6140780 418372 295348 S 10.5 11.7 32:59.29 lomiri 17763 phablet 20 0 3553392 198512 160808 S 0.0 5.5 1:50.02 qmlscene 17888 phablet 20 0 14.0g 159116 38372 S 0.0 4.4 4:15.90 QtWebEngineProc 22131 phablet 20 0 204.6g 134476 32876 S 1.6 3.8 1:13.70 signal-desktop 22974 phablet 20 0 2640604 108728 63600 T 0.0 3.0 0:05.26 lomiri-clock-ap 5222 phablet 20 0 1919932 91832 52740 T 0.0 2.6 0:35.71 lomiri-dialer-a 4854 phablet 20 0 2283820 71756 60872 S 0.0 2.0 1:40.69 maliit-server 22221 phablet 20 0 32.5g 60192 57196 S 21.7 1.7 0:23.63 signal-desktop 21580 phablet 20 0 277844 52512 50644 S 2.6 1.5 0:21.82 Xwayland 5103 phablet 20 0 2132348 40060 40060 T 0.0 1.1 1:53.34 lomiri-system-s 2551 1047 20 0 11.6g 14280 1848 S 0.0 0.4 7:02.53 camerahalserver 4858 phablet 20 0 2666196 8568 4996 S 0.3 0.2 0:31.43 lomiri-push-ser 2148 root 20 0 1214576 7852 5532 S 3.6 0.2 16:55.07 lomiri-system-c 1832 root 20 0 364824 6392 2300 S 0.0 0.2 1:43.98 upowerd 1654 root 20 0 2286604 6372 0 S 0.0 0.2 0:58.48 snapd 1 root 20 0 24248 6084 2104 S 0.0 0.2 0:57.18 systemd 3241 phablet 20 0 1175228 5704 3172 S 0.0 0.2 0:52.98 media-hub-serve 22745 phablet 20 0 178464 5524 4212 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.08 mtp-server 1777 polkitd 20 0 386452 5184 2404 S 0.0 0.1 0:54.95 polkitd 712 root 19 -1 83872 4988 4060 S 0.0 0.1 0:52.84 systemd-journal 2465 phablet 20 0 22468 4752 2156 S 0.0 0.1 0:16.53 systemd 1576 message+ 20 0 12588 4696 1608 S 0.3 0.1 5:39.31 dbus-daemon 22738 phablet 20 0 326744 4452 3840 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.27 adbd 22946 phablet 20 0 57096 4436 2280 R 1.6 0.1 0:02.28 top 4685 phablet 20 0 465292 4360 1556 S 0.0 0.1 0:03.44 libertined 22201 phablet 20 0 32.4g 4056 3468 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.34 signal-desktop 4805 phablet 20 0 688412 4040 3228 S 0.0 0.1 0:09.09 lomiri-content-But then if I go to Whatsweb, the Ram of Signal-Desktop decrease, and the ram of Whatsweb or rather QtWebEngineProc starts to increase as I navigate
%Cpu(s): 33.6 us, 8.9 sy, 0.1 ni, 56.2 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 1.2 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 3498.4 total, 152.5 free, 2967.3 used, 608.5 buff/cache MiB Swap: 1924.1 total, 828.9 free, 1095.2 used. 531.1 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 17888 phablet 20 0 14.4g 480044 70424 R 194.7 13.4 6:20.35 QtWebEngineProc 3415 phablet 20 0 6140780 413956 296784 S 21.4 11.6 33:32.10 lomiri 17763 phablet 20 0 3765040 351616 273648 S 67.8 9.8 2:44.29 qmlscene 22255 phablet 20 0 196.3g 286284 143608 S 0.3 8.0 2:21.52 signal-desktop 22131 phablet 20 0 204.3g 111528 18760 S 0.0 3.1 1:15.51 signal-desktop 22974 phablet 20 0 2640604 94748 49620 T 0.0 2.6 0:05.26 lomiri-clock-ap 5222 phablet 20 0 1919932 86168 47080 T 0.0 2.4 0:35.71 lomiri-dialer-a 23243 phablet 20 0 9860.2m 70140 46040 S 0.0 2.0 0:00.82 QtWebEngineProc 4854 phablet 20 0 2283820 67364 56404 S 0.3 1.9 1:40.94 maliit-server 22221 phablet 20 0 32.5g 57860 55796 S 0.0 1.6 1:22.57 signal-desktop 21580 phablet 20 0 277844 53788 51232 S 0.0 1.5 0:27.78 Xwayland 23196 phablet 20 0 917052 48556 40872 S 0.0 1.4 0:00.22 QtWebEngineProc 5103 phablet 20 0 2132348 40060 40060 T 0.0 1.1 1:53.34 lomiri-system-s 1654 root 20 0 2286604 8428 1628 S 0.0 0.2 0:58.64 snapd 2551 1047 20 0 11.6g 8152 1168 S 0.0 0.2 7:02.53 camerahalserver 712 root 19 -1 83872 7700 6760 S 0.0 0.2 0:53.07 systemd-journal 1 root 20 0 24248 7500 3492 S 0.0 0.2 0:57.44 systemd 2148 root 20 0 1214576 6656 4568 S 16.8 0.2 17:11.24 lomiri-system-c 1832 root 20 0 364824 6372 2432 S 0.0 0.2 1:44.27 upowerd 2465 phablet 20 0 22468 5344 2740 S 0.0 0.1 0:16.70 systemd 22201 phablet 20 0 32.4g 5320 4700 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.40 signal-desktop 3241 phablet 20 0 1175228 4824 2144 S 0.0 0.1 0:52.98 media-hub-serve 23134 phablet 20 0 244000 4688 3368 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.06 mtp-server 1576 message+ 20 0 12588 4508 1348 S 0.0 0.1 5:39.96 dbus-daemon 23141 root 20 0 1155836 4452 2264 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.05 adbd-pam-sessio 1777 polkitd 20 0 386452 4116 1348 S 0.0 0.1 0:55.05 polkitd 4685 phablet 20 0 465292 4052 1248 S 0.0 0.1 0:03.44 libertined 23159 phablet 20 0 57096 4028 1876 R 2.0 0.1 0:02.68 topIs all this normal?
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
Here is a situation where I'm close to Out-of-Memory, (my phone freezed for 15s and then recovered). If I reboot the phone and open the same apps I will have a lot more swap availiable. Surely if I keep using it like that, it will crash at some point. I have not made a call today, but I've taken pictures. I don't understand why the swap use is so much higher than normal because top does not show any processes that use abnormal amount of Ram. Could the problem come from swap itself?
top - 13:31:14 up 1 day, 25 min, 2 users, load average: 21.65, 22.07, 20.99 Tasks: 640 total, 1 running, 587 sleeping, 2 stopped, 50 zombie %Cpu(s): 12.1 us, 4.9 sy, 0.1 ni, 82.1 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.8 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 81.1/3498.4 [ ] MiB Swap: 82.5/1924.1 [ ] PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 3415 phablet 20 0 6229920 388144 303092 S 0.7 10.8 32:31.70 lomiri 22255 phablet 20 0 196.4g 162708 60184 S 0.3 4.5 0:26.95 signal-desktop 17763 phablet 20 0 3545708 152084 145080 S 0.3 4.2 1:46.33 qmlscene 17888 phablet 20 0 14.0g 130968 25928 S 0.7 3.7 4:06.44 QtWebEngineProc 22374 phablet 20 0 2414496 112092 61980 S 2.0 3.1 0:11.02 lomiri-camera-a 22131 phablet 20 0 204.4g 105492 23376 S 7.9 2.9 0:42.14 signal-desktop 4854 phablet 20 0 2283820 63164 59408 S 0.3 1.8 1:39.14 maliit-server 2551 1047 20 0 12.7g 57016 28064 S 99.3 1.6 3:21.46 camerahalserver 22343 phablet 20 0 1977936 42924 41036 S 2.3 1.2 0:05.77 qmlscene 22221 phablet 20 0 32.5g 40492 38812 S 0.0 1.1 0:05.71 signal-desktop 5103 phablet 20 0 2132348 40060 40060 T 0.0 1.1 1:53.34 lomiri-system-s 5222 phablet 20 0 1919912 39960 39960 T 0.0 1.1 0:34.41 lomiri-dialer-a 21580 phablet 20 0 293540 30952 30472 S 0.0 0.9 0:17.62 Xwayland 2520 1013 20 0 10.9g 13532 12296 S 8.9 0.4 0:16.99 minimediaservic 712 root 19 -1 83872 11136 10304 S 0.0 0.3 0:52.47 systemd-journal 2148 root 20 0 1214404 9508 7156 S 1.3 0.3 16:42.81 lomiri-system-c 1 root 20 0 24248 9496 5516 S 0.0 0.3 0:57.16 systemd 22745 phablet 20 0 178464 9164 7852 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.08 mtp-server 22738 phablet 20 0 326744 9056 8216 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.14 adbd 22755 root 20 0 1155836 8052 5828 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.05 adbd-pam-sessio 2465 phablet 20 0 22468 7728 5136 S 0.0 0.2 0:16.46 systemd 4858 phablet 20 0 2666196 7260 4108 S 0.0 0.2 0:31.06 lomiri-push-ser 1654 root 20 0 2286604 6788 1184 S 0.0 0.2 0:58.29 snapd 22773 phablet 20 0 57208 5608 3388 R 1.6 0.2 0:01.15 top 4855 phablet 20 0 294540 5496 4320 S 0.0 0.2 0:03.85 mtp-server-usb- 5261 phablet 20 0 350504 5320 4488 S 0.0 0.1 0:06.35 zeitgeist-fts 4857 phablet 20 0 405916 5188 4340 S 0.0 0.1 0:16.78 lomiri-indicato 22763 phablet 20 0 53404 5080 3584 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.08 bash -
RE: Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad
I would like to add to my list, a new priority 2 that since I upgraded my Vollaphone 22 to 24.04-1.1, I have recurrent crashes / freeze, seems an Out of memory problem, and might be related to the dialer and/or VoLTE. I did not have any similar problem before. It greatly reduce the reliability and usability of the phone unfortunately.
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RE: Whatsweb app upgrade.
@mihael said in Whatsweb app upgrade.:
Actually I don't know but maybe whatsapp works inside waydroid?
Yes, it works you can download apk from official website.
somehow take a picture of the qr code from whatsweb and then scan it with whatsapp from within waydroid...
For the Qr-code option, you need to use a second device to take a picture of the Qr-Code, and then switch to Waydroid app, and scan the Qr-code on the screen of the second device. (I've not tested it for Whatsapp but it works for Signal).
It should also possible to use the phone number option, then you don't need another device, just to copy a code that will appear in the waydroid app. It should be easier!
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
About the dialer, I cannot exclude that the app was opened (or had been used) at the time of every crash.
It's true also that I now use VoLTE, that I did not use before 24.04.1 , so it could have a impact on the RAM(?)
It's also true that I cannot reproduce the bug by opening a lot of apps straight after a reboot.
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
Ps: I also just experimented a black screen when receiving a call. In Adb I could see the phone was not in out of memory at that time. The phone was vibrating and I could not turn on the screen to see the call.
Although previously in this boot I had an Out of Memory problem, it freezed temporarilly, but the system recovered, so I wonder if some important system processes may have been killed in the process.
Honestly I'm wondering whether I should downgrade, because this starts to be a real problem.
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
I almost do not use Waydroid, the crashes and freezes happen when waydroid is not started and have not been started since boot.
Well I've investigated and it seems to be an out of memory problem.
Because I realize that now if I start a few apps (like the Morph browser + whatsweb + Signal UT ) then I rapidly run out of Ram AND Swap. (I can see it in top)
Then my question is why did it not happen before? Is the memory usage is higher in 24.04-1.1 compared to 24.04-1.0 and if so why ?
And secondly why do we have so few swap (2 Go) if there are Out of Memory problems? Or maybe we had more swap in 24.04-1.0 and it was reduced ?
Is it possible to increase the swap?
Edit: By the way I've reported the problem here. https://gitlab.com/ubports/porting/reference-device-ports/android11/volla-phone-22/volla-mimameid/-/issues/24
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
I've tried to access the shell when the phone freezed, but It does not reply.
Honestly the frequency of freezes is quite alarming, it almost never happened before 24.04.1.1 .
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RE: VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed
Since last upgrade I seem to experience occasionally system crashes, or rather freezes: the system does not respond and I have to reboot. I did not have such problems before the upgrade.
It seems to happen more when recording a video, when terminating a call, but It also happened in random moments like, just after starting Signal UT.
Anyone else noticed that?
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RE: Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch
@CiberSheep said in Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch:
@pparent said in Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch:
Could you document the process, when you do? It will be of a lot of help for other developersThank you for your suggestion.
I would say, I guess the commits are the documentation of the process. It's not overly complex, and I would say is kind of self-explanatory for a developer.
https://github.com/pparent76/SignalUT/commits/main/
By the way the code in the Signal UT repo was already reused by someone for "Chromium for UT" App. (I also reused my own code for "Min Browser")
Now if there are specific questions about it I'm always open to answer!
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RE: Application Blablacar - connexion avec fb
Je précise au passage que BlaBlacar n'est pas utilisé qu'en France. En Espagne ou je voyage régulièrement c'est très rependu. Je ne sais pas tous les pays ou c'est utilisé mais j'imagine qu'il y a plusieurs pays d’Europe qui l'on adopté. (Je dis ça car ces infos intéressent peut-être donc des non-francophones).
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RE: Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch
I've published the new version v7.83.0-1 that allows uploading files.
For Christmas send a photo to your family with Signal UT, and let me know if it works!
Next release will focus on notifications! Though expect a delay as I will do a pause for Christmas holidays!
Ps: Import and export files through contentHub is currently done in a hacky way until we can switch to wayland and xdg_portal. It might occasionally/rarely fail (including application crash, or application loosing focus) in that case restart the app, and try again.