@XPran said in Desperate guy Here:

The version that i have is the 16.04.7 LTS

Uff yes this very old, make sure to upgrade the system before anything else if you want to have a decent experience. For this reason you don't have a good experience of the system.

You may have to do several upgrades in a row, as you probably won't be able to go directly from 16.04 to 24.04. Or you can, indeed reinstall a fresh system, with the installer could be the easiest option. And if you don't have any data on the phone you can wipe userdata when installing to have a completely factory-like install (but you will loose all data!!), but if you have userdata that you want to keep make sure to leave the "wipe user data" box unticked and it will be preserved.

I would recommend installing 24.04, as it works well on Vollaphone 22 and hardware acceleration works significantly better than on 20.04 form my experience from my experience, and it will avoid further major upgrade later.

I'm very surprised you have this version if you bought the phone only 8 month ago. Was the phone new?

@XPran This is the video that you should follow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5yM7XEXryg

@XPran

Yes go to the openstore, download the app "Waydroid Helper" (You can also download there whatsweb and TELEports) , then open it and click on "Install Waydroid" and normally it should work fine after that. You should not need to run any terminal command.

If it does not work you can also try to uninstall and install again from the waydroid helper app, and if really it did not work, and also reboot the phone and/or upgrade Ubuntu Touche it if applicable.

Then you can install within the Waydroid container the official APK of whatsapp that you can find on their website.

@XPran

Apt update should not have harmed anything especially if you did not remount the filesystem in read/write before.

Did you install Waydroid helper from openstore? Did you go in the helper and follow the install waydroid process?

What version of Ubuntu Touch are you currently running ( you can see that in settings)? If you are still running 20.04, maybe you can try to ubpgrade to 24.04 before anything else.

I have a vollaphone 22 , waydroid has always worked fine for me.

@XPran

As an addition to TELEports and Whatsweb, did you try as well to install Waydroid in Ubuntu touch? Native Whatsweb and TelePorts app for Ubuntu touch should do the trick for most day-to-day needs, and offer notifications. But having a fallback to official Whatsapp and Telegram in Waydroid may be usefull as a complementary solution, if you need some advanced features at some point.

In addition to those already mentioned, uWolf can be another solution for modern pdf reading, although if it's a local file you currently need to enter this url manually "file:///home/phablet" then browse to your file on disk. You can bookmark the url or even set it as homepage if you don't use uWolf for browsing. Hopefully in the future we will be able to directly open file with uWolf from file explorer app with content hub.

Make sure to keep your system and applications up-to-date as things are rapidly moving forward.

@mihael Great thank you very much!

@mihael

Ok thank's! Scaling and font size appears correct for you?

@mihael said in Whatsweb app upgrade.:

@pparent I have a N10 on focal and a N100 on noble. Whatsaweb looks perfect on both, no problem with the scaling.

Ok Nice you will be able to test it. With latest revision normally you will have fontsize a bit bigger, that to me seems more pleasant to read, and more on par with Android app.

On another note, and I don't know if this is something that can be easily fixed: when I forward a message, it does the forwarding but then there is no back arrow from the chat. I have to restart the app. This has been with the previous version of the app as well.

I see, it will be solved in latest release, alongside other situations where you could be stuck.

@mihael and everyone,

I have a question: are you currently using noble or focal, and what's your feedback about the app scaling? (Is it too big? too small? Does it display correctly?)

I noticed that for me the upgrade ( Vollaphone 22 ) changes quite dramatically scaling in some apps, and especially in the browser, and webview based apps. Everything is way bigger than it was.

In particular in my whatsweb, for me with focal everything was a bit small but ok, there was no display problem. But with Noble it's too zoomed in, and there are display problems, the messages and images don't fit in the screen. I've had to apply a zoom factor of 0.88 to the webview.

So I think one of the important features will be to allow users to users to set the scaling of the app+ fontsize, but also it would be nice to find automatically a nice value.

[EDIT] I've done a quick tinkering, to adapt webview zoom factor automatically and make font size more pleasant, It will need to be tested on another device.

@Moem said in Taking the plunge:

The Cinny option works rather well I must say. Two niggles remain:

Three niggles remain:

*You loose end-to-end encryption, and the matrix relay server gets to read your messages unencrypted.

For Signal I use Molly Foss in Waydroid.

@O.o. said in Taking the plunge:

SMS-based authentication is a terrible idea. There are few things more insecure than SMS.

For what it’s worth, I would say there are few things more insecure than current banking to handle money in the digital era! Though in practice in my country there has been a scam boom based on these banking applications, and I would say that ironically using the SMS + long-term code protects more against these scam. Because when a fake bank advisor asks you to do something in an app, if you're not tech friendly, you may do as they told quite easily because you don't understand and you're used to be assisted, and that people do it for you (Maybe it's even your adviser that installed the app for you...). But then if a fake bank advisor calls you to ask for your personal code that you have been told to share with nobody, it can trigger way more warnings and it's way harder to justify. Security is not only about tech, there is also a human side.

But anyway the good solution based on smartphone would be to use standard TOTP, which is implemented in UT, and is simple to for users.

I'm glad I'm not living in you're country by the way, where banks handle authentications for public services... It's aslo the banks that edit passports?

@O.o.

By the way I think in Europe legally banks have to offer an alternative for online payments and double authentication, and they can't force you to own a Google or Apple device, or use Playstore or Apple app store. If you can't stand the monopoly a possibility can be to call your bank and ask for an alternative. Because the best way to avoid the monopoly is to incentivize actors like banks not to enforce it.

There are solutions based on SMS for every payment + a code valid for several years received by postmail. And some modern banks even support (to some extend) Yubikey or even standard TOTP.

@mihael

Even without internet the js and webassembly scripts keep running in the webview (if it is not suspended)... If it's hidden it's optimized so that it's mainly background workers that stay working.

Yes, I would love to test versions before they are released to openstore!

Great I'll tell you when I have the next revision finalized on my side, probably next week, and we'll see how we can do.

Though if you know how to compile an app I publish my code as I go : https://github.com/pparent76/whatsweb
(Note that in this repo I work with an app id "whatsapp.pparent", so it will not override your app from the openstore)

@CatWithUT

Thank you for your work it seems very interesting to me!

Just a quick question: do you think it would be feasible to create a .click package and have it in the Openstore? In a similar fashion that uWolf and uFirefox does? Can we avoid libertine containers? Do you think upcoming Mir2.0 will change anything in this regard as it supports Wayland?

Do you use Mobian build scripts for ARM, for signal-desktop? https://github.com/0mniteck/Signal-Desktop-Mobian/releases

And also note: if we can get an initial version to build and make an UT package I'm willing to work on making patches to make the interface responsive as I have done with whatsapp web. I think this is the easy part.

But we should first make a set of scripts to build automatically a binary, and then a click package that can run on UT.

@mihael said in Whatsweb app upgrade.:

May I dare to suggest that also the Screensaver when the app is not foreground could be black for the dark mode? - or could it be optional? - for me personally I would prefer not to have it at all.

Already done in my dev version (screensaver image for light and dark theme). And screensaver will be optional later, but it's better for battery usage if you keep the app unsuspended in background, otherwise it keeps doing many calculations in background to compute the display of a webview that you're not using.

@mihael By the way should you want to test versions before they are released to openstore, it's possible.

@RJDan said in Taking the plunge:

@O.o. Thanks for sharing. Its great to see what others have done. The am/pm trick is a neat way to deal with the corners!

In that regard, you might be interested in this:

https://github.com/JamiKettunen/lomiri-notch-hax

@O.o. said in Taking the plunge:

The font size is borderline too small for this pair of gen-X eyes. I haven't found a font size setting. I hope there's one hidden somewhere because it's a bit of a strain.

Try Ubuntu tweaks app form the openstore, you should be able to tweak scaling.

@mihael

Icons color for dark mode will be solved in next revision.

Did you try to go in the Settings app to go in Settings>Notifications>Whatsweb ? You should normally be able to disable notifications from there. Works for me at least. (If not maybe try to restart the phone, and try again)

(The setting in whatsapp page does not have any effect because the sound of the webview itself is currently disabled when the app is in background, so the sound triggered by whatsapp is not heard anyway).

@mihael said in Whatsweb app upgrade.:

Is there an available option to turn off the notifications sound and just have the notification text in UT?

Normally you should NOT ear the whatsapp sound when the app is in background, or the phone locked, do you? You may ear the UT notifications sound if you haven't enable "mute mode" (or not sure how it is called in english) in the upper pannel in UT.

@mihael said in Whatsweb app upgrade.:

Another thing: on my Oneplus N10, once I enter a certain chat, there is no back arrow on the top left conrner but taping there where the back arrow should be takes me back to the list of chats, so it works even though the back arrow is not visible.

Hum strange, especially if the action is still triggered, do you have a screenshot? Are you possibly in dark mode (currently the color of the "back icon", and "left menu icon" does not adapt properly to dark mode, I will try to fix later)? I should still be slighlty visible in dark mode though.