Posts made by vandys

@kugiigi And it's not specific to CRUST. Ubuntu Phone devs wanted all apps to be SIGSTOP'ed except when the screen was on and the app focused. And then background downloads, music playing, messaging, .... All sorts of exceptions cropped up.

Google's latest Android is ferociously aggressive in not running apps (even when selected for no "battery optimization"). Resulting in people not getting messages until their friends have long gone to lunch together without them.

So CRUST is just an outlying data point of what can happen when battery optimizations are pursued without a context of usability.

And thank you to the devs for responding so quickly! I'm glad this issue is on your radar screen.

I've touched on this issue over on the Pinephone forum, but there's a general OS issue which should probably get a little coverage here.

They've enabled a power management processor (termed "CRUST") which basically turns off almost all of the phone except the cell modem. The win is that they get great standby numbers, and a text can wake up the phone.

Downsides: phone calls often can't get answered due to the phone not waking up fast enough. XMPP is right off the table, as is Wifi. And you can't listen to music on your earbuds--as soon as the screen goes off, so does everything except that cell modem.

It's a real pity, as the ubports for the Pinephone is far and away the most polished OS for the device. Definitely daily driver quality. But the power management makes it impossible.

@rocket2nfinity said in Nexus 5 vs Nexus 5x:

@jjconstr regarding the boot loop, the N5 is really hard to break. Chances are it will boot with the installer. That's why we love the N5 so much around here, it's very difficult to brick. So, if it's in a boot loop, it's most likely that way because someone flashed a wrong file or borked the partitions.

The power button can eventually poop out, which gives you a boot loop. I have two N5's down, have two replacement buttons, but it's a pretty tedious repair, so haven't made the time to buckle down and attempt it.

Need to note that the 5x is famous for failing with a "boot loop". In fact, one disgruntled owner has a annual holiday livestream of his 5x endlessly bootlooping.

I'll have an N5 available as soon as I replace its power switch... very interested to try it!

@normandc Disappointingly, neither here nor on the pine64 forums have have I found an answer. Lots of views of the post, but no answers. OTG support for the PinePhone continues to be an open question...

BTW, will the PinePhone support USB OTG? I'd sometimes like a hard-attached USB keyboard....

@PublicLewdness This matches my experience as a daily driver, except I finish the day with > 50% battery. Probably a different mix of background tasks.

@makeixo said in PinePhone:

@vandys Maybe with the crazy dude in office now its 25%.

Nah, I told him I'm rich, so no tax and I can deduct the price.

In the past, imported electronic devices arrive, and then a while later (1+ week or so) a note from the USA Federal people arrives with a bill for your imported device. My memory is more than 10%, but it was a while ago. YMMV.

@jezek Thanks! There it is in application-legacy-morph-browser-.log

Anybody know where I can find the JS console.log() output? There used to be a file with the content, but if it still exists I can't find it.

Thanks!

@vandys Let me note an enhancement request; I'm in the browser, a text pane with some content I want to copy and later paste to another window. It's not an input field, so I still can only reach the old--very limited--text selection widget. Any chance one of the buttons on the selector widget can be "advanced selection" to reach the new code?

I just updated OTA (the updater called it Version 9). I spotted in the release notes that there is now a new "selection mode". When your cursor is on some text, you long hold space. Swipe to get the cursor to the starting point, then double tap to switch to the mode where you swipe to drag out your range of selected text. Now you can tap cut/copy as usual, but with this excellent mode, you can exactly and easily pick your exact range of text.

Well done! I will be using this feature very often. And since your dragging/control of the selected range doesn't make you put your finger on top of the text you're trying to select (how dumb is that?), this solution is as easy as any I've ever used on a phone. Just remember to long hold space to activate it when you want to select text.

@dobey At least WRT the Android-ish kernel underneath, networking is a capability which can be held back. It is not benign to hand out your networking stack to every app; they can use it to slave to a botnet, contribute to DDoS, track your location, pull down and try exploits after communicating your system's apparen config.

@CiberSheep An app loaded from the filesystem should not need "filesystem access". Similarly, an app using a web runtime should not need access to the network at large. I hope this is something which can be improved over time...

Why do most apps in the store need network access? I mean, a game like M vs. M? or Four in a Row 2? Tic Tac Toe? (But not the Mines game, yay!) If the app devs aren't, in general, going to restrain themselves, should we at least be looking at a standard system way to constrain permissions after the install?

@Djhg2000 said in PinePhone:

battery
"Not having a removable battery is a dealbreaker for me so the Librem 5..."

I just went to their own web site, and they clearly say the battery is serviceable/replaceable.
To be clear, you mean you want a phone with an externally removeable battery? Just
click off? I can't remember the last phone I owned which had that.

@dshimer I agree, I was off ubports for a bit because my wife's phone died and she needed (Android, sigh) a replacement quickly, thus a Nexus 5 was used up. But I presently laid hands on another, and here I am back with a daily driver again! This one was, hmmm, like $60, with everything including battery in good condition.

@PINE64 For shipping of batteries, I suggest that you fab a flashlight which uses the same battery. One switch, one LED, minimal plastic case. Then you can ship a battery within a device, national post office regs are satisfied, and the recipient can perhaps crack open the flashlight and use the battery elsewhere.