Is UT efficient for a daily drive ?
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Yes, the meizu pro 5, on the paper, seems to be the best device available (and it is dual-sim). But it is quite difficult to find, and the documentation says that Ubuntu touch cannot be ported to the android version, so I need to find a Ubuntu touch version, which seems impossible. It is very hard to find the HQ devices as well.
Because of the dual-Sim problem, the good solution could be to try the FP2. Now that the Fp3 is launched, it is quite easy to find, and not so expensive. -
@Pookie said in Is UT efficient for a daily drive ?:
Yes, the meizu pro 5, on the paper, seems to be the best device available (and it is dual-sim). But it is quite difficult to find, and the documentation says that Ubuntu touch cannot be ported to the android version,
This is not correct information. UT CAN be ported to the Android version - it just requires a number of additional steps to do so. Info on how to do so is at https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2755/meizu-pro-5-flyme-os-to-ubuntu-touch-modem-update-fingerprint-function
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@TotalSonic
Wow thanks for the tip. It looks tricky but not impossible at all. If I find the device it will be my first choice, particularly because of the fingerprint reader and dual-Sim capacity. -
@canadien666 said in Is UT efficient for a daily drive ?:
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To me, what is missing is a video player : no VLC, no Kodi, no possibility to read .m3u playlist, and possible extension crashes. This is a No-Go for me but I understand it is not easy to (dedicate time to) make software, so I am patient. Honestly, it is a big lack for me I hope it will come one day.
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@prog-amateur VLC (the GTK version) works quite well in a Libertine container. The controls are of a necessity not very touch friendly, especially not on a small screen. But if you navigate to the file you want to play in the file browser, you can select VLC to open it with.
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@arubislander Do you have the link to the right VLC package ? Thank you in advance.
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@arubislander thank you very much. I remember we (you or somebody else) have discussed this point in another topic. Same as @domubpkm : do you have any easy "how to" do it ? I have found a Libertine tutorial and it is not so easy to understand. Thank you !
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@prog-amateur , @domubpkm : Is your question about installing VLC in a Libertine container, or more specifically about creating a Libertine container in the first place?
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@arubislander : my strategy was to install a Libertine container first, then install VLC.
However, I could never install any container because it was not so clear to me (I know a few Linux commands but the tutorial I have found on Internet was complex).If you know an easy way to install VLC as a Libertine container, please feel free to tell us, thank you very much !
Something I also regret is no Anbox for the Nexus 7 : maybe this would have solved the VLC/Kodi/another need.
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@prog-amateur You can create a libertine container from system settings, libertine. Just go to battery settings first and set lock when idle to never before you start.
Once that's done, tap on the container name then to add apps etc tap the plus sign top right corner -
@arubislander Clearer : the good questions are : what is the exact name of the package vlc GTK version for libertine container or in what archives is vlc GTK for libertine container ? I tried the package named 'vlc', it works very badly in OPO...
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@advocatux Hello.
In continuity with your effective advices, have you experienced light packages that work well (with Nexus 5 or OPO) under libertine container (video players, web browsers, emails or other) useful on a daily basis ? Thank you -
@Lakotaubp Thank you very much ! Following your advises, I have succeeded to install VLC on my Nexus 7. I regret the UI is almost unusable, but it is better than nothing !
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@domubpkm said in Is UT efficient for a daily drive ?:
I tried the package named 'vlc', it works very badly in OPO...
That is the package I was referring to. I might be getting confused with wireshark, which does have a QT and GTK package in the repos.
Any application not written with different screen sizes and touch input in mind will work badly on a phone. But having said that, if the File Manager is used for browsing and selecting the media, and VLC is only used for the playback, then it is a passable experience.
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@arubislander Actually, it's worse than fair for me! The Nexus 5 crashes when this package is launched and the OPO has the image that freezes very quickly and only the sound is correct. I guess that's normal!
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I do not have any of those devices, so I cannot speak to them. On my Pro5 and M10 FHD it works without crashes.
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@TotalSonic Man. Trying to find one of these phones with decent specs, in good condition is hard!!!! Otherwise have to pay 450 for BQ Aquarius...
Any suggestions???
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@Pookie
One thing to know about UT in the present day is that it's also quite sluggish compared to android for example - apps take a long time to launch (especially camera app, which is annoying) even those you'd assume are "light", like Notes. Also, I own a FP2 and I don't recommend using UT as a daily drive on it - since i bought it a couple of months ago it sits nicely on a desk, waiting for the time three main problems are fixed: there are some random reboots, even though nothing like that happened since OTA-11 (fingers crossed) ; brightness management still means you have to wait 10 whole seconds for the phone to lock if brightness is up (known issue); and finally the flashlight doesn't work (known issue). Everything else works perfectly, anbox and Libertine are impressively functional, the interface is fast and intuitive, and no apps ever gave me trouble. I could do with a bit of sluggishness and locking issues, but the flashlight is something I need on a daily basis at work, so I can't yet shift to this phone. -
@Emphrath The problem you experience are linked to your phone.
Flashlights works well on Nexus5.
Compared to android, I feel apps are started fast enough (about 2s) and take a f**ing lot less memory.
I never experienced problem with brightness.
In two years I experienced few reboots but not as much as I had with android (about two to three reboots per month with Google).So I agree the experience can be different according to the device owned.
And the need to rely on old used phones is a cause for some problems.
The system evolves fast and is more stable each day.Let's hope issues will be fixed for you FP2 and that PinePhone will be fully supported so we can rely on a good device to get the most of our OS.
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@Emphrath
Well, it looks like the FP2 is not a device stable enough for a daily driver. But videos I have checked about UT show that apps are not so slow to launch, in any case it is good enough for me. Maybe the problem is FP2 ?After looking at the different devices, it seems that there are two solutions for me :
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Find a Meizu pro 5, which has all the things I need, hoping all will work properly (kind of a bet). The main problem being that it is not easy to find in Europe by now, even the android version.
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Find a cheap and easy-to-find device like the nexus 5 (or wait for the pinephone) just to try UT for fun, knowing that there will be some compromises and that it will never be good enough to get rid of my android phone for the future (no fingerprint sensor, no dual-sim, no good camera, old hardware, second-hand so battery already used, possible bugs). The advantage of this solution is that it can be done right now.
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A third option could be to wait some time that some other device is ported on UT, with all the specs I need and no bugs. Kind of a bet as well, it can take some time. I have seen the volla project on another topic, could be great but no evidence that it will ever be released as the kickstarter seems too ambitious.
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