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    • J Offline
      jojumaxx
      last edited by 10 May 2024, 17:13

      I am sorry for complaining about Morph again.

      The number oft websites rejecting Morph or causing problems with it is increasing.
      I tried on different phones and Sapot Browser, too.

      For some services or websites I already have to use another phone. But I can't carry two phones always and everywhere.

      As much as I love Ubuntu Touch, that forces me to switch to another OS.

      I just like to know if there will be done something about that problem soon.

      Thanks!

      Happily running Ubuntu Touch:

      • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
      • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
      • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
      • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
      • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
      • Volla Phone
      • Volla Phone X
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        domubpkm @jojumaxx
        last edited by 10 May 2024, 17:39

        @jojumaxx Sometimes switch morph to desktop mode can workaround the problem. Otherwise, you should ask the question again in the Q&A..

        J 1 Reply Last reply 10 May 2024, 21:07 Reply Quote 0
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          Ian @jojumaxx
          last edited by Ian 5 Oct 2024, 19:00 10 May 2024, 18:53

          @jojumaxx I too have had problems with some sites and UT. Specifically I can't buy stuff from Screwfix that I need for work. In frustration I tried the unthinkable. I fired up Waydroid and used their browser. Success!
          It does go against the grain but at least I can buy stuff I need.

          More of a problem is the imminent shut down of 2G/3G in the UK on the Three network. I might have to do the completely unthinkable and get another phone..... running Android.

          I can't believe I just admitted that here. If I do succumb I will retain my UT phone as a web browser at home and await the arrival of VOLTE ๐Ÿ˜‡

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            Moem
            last edited by 10 May 2024, 19:29

            I heard in a recent Q&A that there is another browser in the works, so all may not be lost just yet!

            Is currently using an Op5t
            Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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              moodroid @jojumaxx
              last edited by 10 May 2024, 20:08

              Canโ€™t you just use Firefox via Libertine?

              J 1 Reply Last reply 10 May 2024, 21:18 Reply Quote 0
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                MrT10001 @Ian
                last edited by 10 May 2024, 20:30

                @Ian There's about 9 years to go before they switch off 2g/3g in the UK. 5g isn't working so well outside of the metropolitan areas (dire where I reside, and I switched to 4g which works and yes it is android (booo), a requirement for my work).

                Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
                I have too many devices...

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                  jojumaxx @domubpkm
                  last edited by jojumaxx 5 Oct 2024, 21:07 10 May 2024, 21:07

                  @domubpkm I'll try desktop mode but I doubt it'll resolve e.g. "Your browser version is too old" problem.
                  Posting the issue in the Q&A section might be a good idea, thanks

                  Happily running Ubuntu Touch:

                  • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
                  • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                  • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                  • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                  • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
                  • Volla Phone
                  • Volla Phone X
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                    jojumaxx @Ian
                    last edited by 10 May 2024, 21:11

                    @Ian Yeah, of course I could try Waydroid. But I didn't switch from Android to Linux to emulate Android again...
                    How about 4G in the UK? I exclusively use it. Are there even 5G UT phones except the Fairphone?

                    Happily running Ubuntu Touch:

                    • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
                    • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                    • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                    • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                    • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
                    • Volla Phone
                    • Volla Phone X
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                      jojumaxx @Moem
                      last edited by 10 May 2024, 21:13

                      @Moem That would be great. Did they mention any time this could happen? Since this is imminent a "we're planning it for some time in the future" doesn't seem sufficient...

                      Happily running Ubuntu Touch:

                      • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
                      • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                      • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                      • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                      • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
                      • Volla Phone
                      • Volla Phone X
                      M 1 Reply Last reply 11 May 2024, 07:10 Reply Quote 0
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                        jojumaxx @moodroid
                        last edited by 10 May 2024, 21:18

                        @moodroid Last time I tried that, FF was neither working nor usable since not adapted to small screens and therefore not even completely visible.
                        Has that changed by now?

                        Happily running Ubuntu Touch:

                        • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
                        • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                        • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                        • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                        • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
                        • Volla Phone
                        • Volla Phone X
                        M 1 Reply Last reply 10 May 2024, 22:30 Reply Quote 0
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                          moodroid @jojumaxx
                          last edited by moodroid 5 Oct 2024, 22:34 10 May 2024, 22:30

                          @jojumaxx I think most of those issues were before Focal Fossa. A great tip from @arubislander is to add MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 to the exec in firefox.desktop. Libertine Tweak Tool for scaling and I'm sure there's further improvements that can be made also.

                          Sent from Firefox ๐Ÿ™‚

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                            Moem @jojumaxx
                            last edited by 11 May 2024, 07:10

                            @jojumaxx said in Browser limits phone usability:

                            That would be great. Did they mention any time this could happen?

                            No, but it's a 'it's currently working partially, and the features that don't work yet are being worked on' situation, rather than a 'this is in the plans for the future' one.

                            Is currently using an Op5t
                            Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                              domubpkm @Moem
                              last edited by 11 May 2024, 07:44

                              @Moem said in Browser limits phone usability:

                              another browser in the works

                              Hello.
                              Is this a morph update (QtWebEngine) or a real new browser? @Lakotaubp some links about ? Thanks

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                                domubpkm @Ian
                                last edited by 11 May 2024, 08:02

                                @Ian said in Browser limits phone usability:

                                Specifically I can't buy stuff from Screwfix

                                If you use a smartphone running Xenial, obviously, it will no longer work. With my Volla running Focal, I can reach the login page of the French mobile site. But I don't have an account so I won't test further.

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                                  Moem @domubpkm
                                  last edited by 11 May 2024, 08:07

                                  @domubpkm said in Browser limits phone usability:

                                  Is this a morph update (QtWebEngine) or a real new browser?

                                  A real new browser with a different rendering engine, if i recall correctly. Alfred was talking about it.

                                  Is currently using an Op5t
                                  Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                                    Ian @domubpkm
                                    last edited by 11 May 2024, 08:26

                                    @domubpkm I have a Vollaphone X running Focal OTA 4. I can browse their site and add things to my basket but I am unable to pay. Very frustrating. For those of you not in the UK Screwfix is a suplier of DIY goods.

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                                      Bolly @Moem
                                      last edited by 11 May 2024, 09:30

                                      Hello @Moem

                                      @Moem said in Browser limits phone usability:

                                      @domubpkm said in Browser limits phone usability:

                                      Is this a morph update (QtWebEngine) or a real new browser?

                                      A real new browser with a different rendering engine, if i recall correctly. Alfred was talking about it.

                                      Could it be this one?

                                      https://mastodon.social/@fredldotme/112393573256992836
                                      https://mastodon.social/@fredldotme/112394199074682010

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                                      2016-Now (Daily use) : BQ Aquaris M10 FHD Betatester

                                      2020-Now : PinePhone Braveheart & CE UBports
                                      2020-Now (Family/Daily use): Vollaphone Xenial
                                      2022-Now (Family/Daily use): Vollaphone 22 Focal

                                      M 1 Reply Last reply 11 May 2024, 09:51 Reply Quote 1
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                                        Moem @Bolly
                                        last edited by Moem 5 Nov 2024, 09:54 11 May 2024, 09:51

                                        @Bolly said in Browser limits phone usability:

                                        Could it be this one?

                                        Yes, I do believe that's it!
                                        Be sure not to miss the Q&A tonight, you might hear more ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        Is currently using an Op5t
                                        Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                                          Lakotaubp @domubpkm
                                          last edited by 11 May 2024, 14:17

                                          @domubpkm Some details in here https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/post/ubuntu-touch-q-a-139-3924

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                                            kugiigi
                                            last edited by 13 May 2024, 07:24

                                            Sadly this is indeed a major problem right now since UT relies more on the web than the mainstream OSes. The issue with QtWebEngine/Chromium is a tricky thing to fix unless we find a way to move to Qt6 quickly and even then, we'll still have the problem of being always behind.
                                            The browser Alfred is experimenting with is using Webkit which is what Apple uses in Safari and iOS browsers. It's very promising so far and progressing well. I guess it can already be a good workaround on some transactional sites. Currently, it still lacks basic functions though like for example good media playback and even pinch zoom. Hopefully, it can be released soon to the general public as an alternative for sites that are essential to some users that doesn't work properly in Morph anymore.

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