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Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name

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      thepeter
      last edited by 17 Jun 2017, 19:52

      Branding of linux distro is IMHO mostly based on packaging system, so question about name of system should be derived out from question: do we use packages anyhow connected to ubuntu? and for now answer is: yes, because AFAIK our development tools are from ubuntu desktop linux, and also at-least here we assume developer for this system would have ubuntu on desktop

      And if it comes to suggestions geeky name UB3 crossed my mind at current circumstances (suggesting that U'll be free with this distro πŸ˜„ )

      If we achieve freedom from desktop distributions and still would like to have some (well hidden) link to ubuntu, we may generate new name the way they did - for instance "mobile" (adjective) according google translate in zulu is "hambelayo" or "bukhali" for "smart" and "thintana" is verb for "to touch / to contact"; but we also can go completely our way - same as ubuntu and basically everyone did when derived from debian - for instance showing that this is "the linux distro for mobile devices": molix, mode linux, or just smartdev linux / touchscreen linux etc ...

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        hans1977se
        last edited by 17 Jun 2017, 20:37

        I think it would be nice if it could continue to be called Ubuntu Touch, but if it can't maybe UBtouch would be a good candidate? Or else if something more distant from Ubuntu like Libre Touch, Free Touch or Open Touch?

        I'm still ok with UBports as the name as well, but i think that over time it might be more and more misleading since it is probably going to be less and less about porting someone else's OS to more devices.

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          flohack @thepeter
          last edited by 18 Jun 2017, 08:52

          @thepeter Bukhali sounds nice somehow, and U and B are still in πŸ˜‰

          My languages: πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ή πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

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            jamesp @flohack
            last edited by 18 Jun 2017, 09:54

            @Flohack said in Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name:

            @thepeter Bukhali sounds nice somehow, and U and B are still in πŸ˜‰

            Reminds of bukkage also it is used as surname so probably not best of choices.

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              advocatux
              last edited by 18 Jun 2017, 14:46

              Ubuntu Intellectual property rights policy clearly states:

              "Any redistribution of modified versions of Ubuntu must be approved, certified or provided by Canonical if you are going to associate it with the Trademarks. Otherwise you must remove and replace the Trademarks and will need to recompile the source code to create your own binaries. This does not affect your rights under any open source licence applicable to any of the components of Ubuntu. If you need us to approve, certify or provide modified versions for redistribution you will require a licence agreement from Canonical, for which you may be required to pay. For further information, please contact us (as set out below)."

              So it's in this community, and project, interest to keep the distance from Canonical-Ubuntu trademark to avoid legal problems.

              UBports is not bad, but I prefer something like Convergence OS or whatever synonym you like about the convergence concept.

              P.S. If you want to dig deeper in how Canonical is willing to employ its Legal Department, look for their actions against OVH, Linux Mint, or even how they use the trademark law to target a site critical of Ubuntu privacy ("Fix Ubuntu" site).

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                iamnotarobot
                last edited by iamnotarobot 18 Jun 2017, 15:29

                perhaps it's an interim name. it's quite description of what's going on. perhaps the project should have a community contest to come up with a long term name.

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                  thepeter
                  last edited by 20 Jun 2017, 11:35

                  In means of convergence verb "to converge" should be Guqula according to google translate. (btw system > uhlelo)

                  While giving it a deeper thought, question may also be: What do we want to express by name of the system? and since there is not yet longterm goal besides make the system working, that might be a very difficult question to answer.

                  @Flohack : example of words starting with ub in zulu or those which contains ub πŸ˜„

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                    Scott-Marley
                    last edited by Scott-Marley 20 Jun 2017, 13:39

                    There's always Mobuntu (mobile + 'buntu)

                    I think I'd prefer something a bit more outside the box, though. Something creative that pinwheels from a stream of consciousness word association.

                    eg Niles > Nilesy > Nilesy-Wilesy > Wile E Coyote > The Coyote (from an old episode of Frasier)

                    Cell phone > Cell > Perfect Cell > Dragon Ball Z > Android Saga > Android > Red Ribbon Army > Red Robin > Red Robin OS! ( a few copyright infringements there)

                    I don't think I have the answer, but trying to push the discussion a little further.

                    Gesture McSwipeyFace OS?

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                      GentlePigeon
                      last edited by 26 Jun 2017, 23:28

                      What about Open Orange Linux? Orange comes from color, that is mainly used in Ubuntu's theme and symbol. Or we can leave orange behind and use lemon or another fruit, because they are colorful and tasty.

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                        Mitu
                        last edited by Mitu 27 Jun 2017, 06:16

                        Yeah, and get sued by Orange carrier πŸ˜‰

                        I would go with something abstract or a single word used in everyday. And make it not contain "Open" or "OS". It's very generic in my opinion.

                        Unless we can stay with Ubuntu Touch, as this is recognizable an I am for sticking to this name as long as possible.

                        About Canonical letting the OS down - well, I think it is more important that they created Ubuntu Touch. Without them Ubports would not exist. And - so far - the OS is still Ubuntu, just became unofficial flavour. It is still planned to be upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04 and not diverge away.

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                          Locamama
                          last edited by 27 Jun 2017, 19:12

                          @Mitu said in Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name:

                          Yeah, and get sued by Orange carrier πŸ˜‰
                          I would go with something abstract or a single word used in everyday. And make it not contain "Open" or "OS". It's very generic in my opinion.
                          Unless we can stay with Ubuntu Touch, as this is recognizable an I am for sticking to this name as long as possible.
                          About Canonical letting the OS down - well, I think it is more important that they created Ubuntu Touch. Without them Ubports would not exist. And - so far - the OS is still Ubuntu, just became unofficial flavour. It is still planned to be upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04 and not diverge away.

                          FRENCH
                          Mitu a raison, si on peut garder UT, se serait l'idΓ©al πŸ™„

                          ENGLISH
                          Mitu is right, if we can keep UT, would be the ideal

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                            UKPhil
                            last edited by 27 Jun 2017, 21:20

                            One other this that I noticed when I looked at it again was the fact that the time on the two clocks is different in the picture. This does not give a good idea of consistency to anyone looking at it.

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                              Vartojas
                              last edited by 29 Jun 2017, 12:30

                              Just to add another proposal:

                              "Community Based Operating System for Mobile Devices" or short: CoBOSMoD
                              And the logo should necessarily include an 'O'

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                                marlboro50
                                last edited by 30 Jun 2017, 08:47

                                my suggestion is "TOUCHY"

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                                  Lakotaubp
                                  last edited by 30 Jun 2017, 15:58

                                  If it needs one how about Utouch.

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                                    PhoenixLandPirat
                                    last edited by 3 Aug 2017, 23:45

                                    I dont think we should use "Touch" in/as the name.
                                    Ubuntu Touch was actually just Ubuntu, but people called it Ubuntu Touch because even though convergence was promised, we never got unity 8 to a good enough level to be default on the desktop, otherwise I believe we would have just called it Ubuntu.

                                    We should look at current names of projects

                                    • Android
                                    • iOS
                                    • Windows Phone
                                    • CyanogenOS
                                    • LineageOS

                                    Personally I think we shouldn't have OS or Phone in the name either.
                                    So looking at

                                    • Android
                                    • Sailfish
                                    • Plasma
                                    • Tizen
                                    • FireFox

                                    Desktop

                                    • Ubuntu
                                    • Mint
                                    • Debian

                                    What would sound good in this kind of area?
                                    I don't know, but we'll have to figure something out sometime.

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                                      Bastos @Lakotaubp
                                      last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 09:51

                                      @Lakota said in Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name:

                                      If it needs one how about Utouch.

                                      +1

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                                        advocatux @Bastos
                                        last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 14:09

                                        @Bastos said in Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name:

                                        If it needs one how about Utouch.

                                        "Utouch Urself. The most pleasant OS in the World".

                                        πŸ˜‚

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                                          Marathon2422
                                          last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 20:19

                                          UB-Mobile, U-Mobile, UBports-Mobile, stealing that from somewhere ~

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                                            toddy @flohack
                                            last edited by 4 Aug 2017, 21:47

                                            @Flohack said in Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name:

                                            @CyberAly I am a bit opposed against emphasizing Ubuntu in the name. TBH Canonical let us all down, and now we should give them free advertisment for their name? Nah I dont like this. We are not affiliated with them, and on th elong run I want some distance here....

                                            Ubuntu is not Canonical. The community was build in the Ubuntu community with their values. If that are not the values which should be in this mobile operating system than it is better to change the name. Ubuntu is a philosophy. If it is a good goal for the operating system I think the project can use this name. The distance, when the project change the name of the operating system has nothing to do with a distance to Canonical. It is only a distance to the early adapter from the Ubuntu Community.

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