• Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login
UBports Robot Logo UBports Forum
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login

Best recent phone hardware for install ?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General
63 Posts 22 Posters 19.7k Views 4 Watching
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • S Offline
      scienz @Peter Gamma
      last edited by 2 Jan 2021, 17:05

      @peter-gamma

      BTW, I wasn't succesful installing UB Touch with UBports Installer on my Mi A2. The installation was stuck on the point where you boot into the UB Touch Recovery and the UBports Installer should be copying the UB Touch image file to the phone. I waited 2 hours and nothing happened.
      Maybe I should install it manually using TWRP like I saw it in a video.

      P 1 Reply Last reply 7 Jan 2021, 17:32 Reply Quote 0
      • P Offline
        Peter Gamma @scienz
        last edited by 7 Jan 2021, 17:32

        I bought a PinePhone. Shipping time was near to a month, shipping costs where 30 USD through DHL, import taxes where another 30 USD. Then I saw the Xiaomi devices with Ubuntu touch. I live in Switzerland. I bought a Xiaomi Redmi 7 onclite in UK for around 100 USD, and a Xiaomi Poco F1 in Switzerland for 50 USD.

        The Xiaomi 7 from UK was sent back by Swiss duty because of the lack of an invoice. Then she sent it by UPC, but to the wrong adress. Now she sends the phone by postal service and sent me the tracking number, and I will soon have the device. Still faster than to wait for a PinePhone.

        I sold my PinePhone on ebay before I used it, negotiated with two guys from Italy and one from Brazil about the best shipping method for the PinePhone. But no method was really satisfying.

        Finally I could sell my PinePhone to a guy in nothern Italy who wants to make a youtube review about the PinePhone. He will have the phone I guess in a view days. Thanks to Swiss post.

        But if Ubuntu Touch works for daily use on Xiaomi devices, why then should one buy a PinePhone? Long shipping time, high import taxes, little power. You can get a Xiaomi Poco F1 on ebay for half the price of a PinePhone if you are lucky, and it has an 8 core processor instead of 4 cores of the PinePhone, and it has 6 Giga RAM instead of the 2 of the PinePhone.

        PETER GAMMA (Physiologist), MEDITATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE SWITZERLAND

        K 1 Reply Last reply 7 Jan 2021, 19:16 Reply Quote 0
        • K Offline
          Keneda @Peter Gamma
          last edited by Keneda 1 Jul 2021, 19:17 7 Jan 2021, 19:16

          @peter-gamma said in Best recent phone hardware for install ?:

          But if Ubuntu Touch works for daily use on Xiaomi devices, why then should one buy a PinePhone?

          Because :

          • Open source hardware
          • Build by open source people
          • Run pure uTouch, not any traces of androïd and closed source blobs here
          • You don't need an atomic bomb to run uTouch, and my old MX4 thanks this
          • Price for a such little "company" is not so high, you can't compare prices from a worldwide capitalist company that product millions of smartphones a year to an open source hardware association that sells its hardware almost the price it costs them...

          2015-2023 : Meizu MX4 ☠️⚰️✝️
          2023-2024 : Nexus 5 ☠️⚰️✝️
          2024-***** : FPOS Fairphone 5 waiting UT for freedom 😉
          🇲🇫🇬🇧

          P 1 Reply Last reply 8 Jan 2021, 08:39 Reply Quote 1
          • P Offline
            Peter Gamma @Keneda
            last edited by 8 Jan 2021, 08:39

            @keneda open source hardware and open source people are fine, but when you look on ebay, it is flooded with Xiaomi devices, and they have a new model every now and then. Do not devices with the best price performance ratio win, and will survive on the long term?

            PETER GAMMA (Physiologist), MEDITATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE SWITZERLAND

            K 1 Reply Last reply 9 Jan 2021, 14:11 Reply Quote 0
            • K Offline
              Keneda @Peter Gamma
              last edited by Keneda 1 Sept 2021, 17:47 9 Jan 2021, 14:11

              @peter-gamma said in Best recent phone hardware for install ?:

              Do not devices with the best price performance ratio win, and will survive on the long term?

              You can't compare Xiaomi (Monstruously big Chineese capitalist company, billions device each year, enormous profit, economic model based on software obsolescence) and Pine64 (little association of people that design and product open source hardware on a basis of thousands devices, sold quasi without profit).

              We don't need more chineese androïd devices that could make skynet alive with its power.

              We need open source hardware, with open source software (drivers), with enough power to run smoothly uTouch and all its apps, and get "lifetime" support (with nothing from shi**y androïd).

              2015-2023 : Meizu MX4 ☠️⚰️✝️
              2023-2024 : Nexus 5 ☠️⚰️✝️
              2024-***** : FPOS Fairphone 5 waiting UT for freedom 😉
              🇲🇫🇬🇧

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • T Offline
                tricky
                last edited by tricky 1 Oct 2021, 18:40 10 Jan 2021, 18:39

                @Keneda The main issue is that after 10 months of availability on the market Pinephone still cannot be used as daily phone with UT. If Xiaomi works smoothly with UT onboard I don't see any reason why not to spread a word about that. If more people give a try to UT (it doesn't matter on which hardware) our community can only benefit from that. Personally i'm also looking for a replacement of my Pinephone and Xiaomi might be a good option.

                K 1 Reply Last reply 10 Jan 2021, 20:06 Reply Quote 2
                • K Offline
                  Keneda @tricky
                  last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 20:06

                  @tricky

                  I only said PINE64 open source device can't be compared to Multinationals.

                  2015-2023 : Meizu MX4 ☠️⚰️✝️
                  2023-2024 : Nexus 5 ☠️⚰️✝️
                  2024-***** : FPOS Fairphone 5 waiting UT for freedom 😉
                  🇲🇫🇬🇧

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • L Offline
                    Lakotaubp
                    last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 08:09

                    Just getting a little OT for this thread. 🙂

                    P 1 Reply Last reply 15 Jan 2021, 14:52 Reply Quote 0
                    • P Offline
                      Peter Gamma @Lakotaubp
                      last edited by 15 Jan 2021, 14:52

                      @lakotaubp not me, we can continue discussing.

                      PETER GAMMA (Physiologist), MEDITATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE SWITZERLAND

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • P Offline
                        PhoenixLandPirat
                        last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 11:05

                        Will just say, buying phones with Ubuntu Touch, or at least some varient of linux, such as kde plasma, manjaro, etc, supports our movement more than installing Ubuntu Touch on x, y, z android device.

                        So Id personally recommend
                        Pinephone,
                        Fx(tec) pro x
                        Or the volla phone.

                        Im saying that from a OnePlus 3, but I have a pinephone, and i plan on continuing down the line of supporting those who support me/my preferences financially.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • D Offline
                          domubpkm
                          last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 12:03

                          There is no miracle UT smartphone. It would be known. There are myriads of issues for every new and old. You have to assume that you don't even know if your own SIM card will be fully compatible : this is my case currently, no internet (like others) with the Volla and Pinephone. So everyone has to make his choice despite all the comments and hope.

                          Luckily the first smartphones (BQ, OPO, Nexus5..) which are more and very reliable, are still maintained and I hope that they will remain so as long as necessary..

                          P 1 Reply Last reply 16 Jan 2021, 12:18 Reply Quote 1
                          • P Offline
                            PhoenixLandPirat @domubpkm
                            last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 12:18

                            @domubpkm Absolutely, rather than "Best recent phone hardware" which leads to peoples personal favourites, and then people get upset when someone says "nah this one is the best because its my favourite" , we should talk about what peoples values are, or desires, if someone wants a better camera, will be different from someone who wants a physical keyboard, which might be different from someone who wants a high end cpu, and someone might hit there price limit at £400.

                            People will fall in different places with all these different questions, and there are a lot more questions than that, if I care about camera, and you dont and you care about a physical keyboard, if we are asked "Whats the best phone" if I say x, and you say y, its possible that we'll get angry and upset at eachother, because we are fighting for a place, rather than being happy with the phone that fits us better.

                            P 1 Reply Last reply 16 Jan 2021, 12:24 Reply Quote 0
                            • P Offline
                              Peter Gamma @PhoenixLandPirat
                              last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 12:24

                              @phoenixlandpirat No need to get angry. There is a phone for everyone. Miracles can happen when the cost to power ratio is good, the community for a device is growing, when a company makes a constant effort to have the most recent hardware components. The more people which are using a device, the more interesting it becomes, there are more debuggers and developers, which makes the device more attractive. In my view, chances are best that a Xiaomi device becomes a miracle device.

                              PETER GAMMA (Physiologist), MEDITATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE SWITZERLAND

                              P A 2 Replies Last reply 16 Jan 2021, 12:27 Reply Quote 0
                              • P Offline
                                PhoenixLandPirat @Peter Gamma
                                last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 12:27

                                @peter-gamma I wasn't angry in anyway, so don't worry about that 🙂

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • A Offline
                                  AppLee @Peter Gamma
                                  last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 15:27

                                  @peter-gamma
                                  I think Xiaomi is the next Google.
                                  Their products look good, sound good are not expensive (yet). But later scandal after scandal users will discover the truth behind and quality will decrease...
                                  A company is a company, no brand makes only good products, so you still need to compare products.

                                  And as for the best hardware to install UT on, the answer is : the more open
                                  Less blobs, more open source drivers/firmwares, mainstream kernel, ...
                                  Those will help our community as @PhoenixLandPirat already said.

                                  K 1 Reply Last reply 16 Jan 2021, 16:58 Reply Quote 3
                                  • K Offline
                                    Keneda @AppLee
                                    last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 16:58

                                    @applee
                                    Totally agree with you, best hardware for open-source software, is open source hardware ^^

                                    2015-2023 : Meizu MX4 ☠️⚰️✝️
                                    2023-2024 : Nexus 5 ☠️⚰️✝️
                                    2024-***** : FPOS Fairphone 5 waiting UT for freedom 😉
                                    🇲🇫🇬🇧

                                    P 1 Reply Last reply 17 Jan 2021, 13:38 Reply Quote 1
                                    • P Offline
                                      Peter Gamma @Keneda
                                      last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 13:38

                                      I bought now three Xiaomi devices for the price of the PinePhone I sold on ebay. Now, I can start doing tests. I prefer to have several devices. It is not a big loss if one is bricked. And it is also possible to have different devices with different distros. There is no perfect distro, as there is no perfect phone.

                                      PETER GAMMA (Physiologist), MEDITATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE SWITZERLAND

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • U Offline
                                        ubuntoutou @cliffcoggin
                                        last edited by ubuntoutou 19 Jan 2021, 17:35

                                        @mito77 OnePlus 6T is only 2 1/2 years old and has a whooping 6 or 8GB of RAM! You can still buy a brand new one.

                                        C 1 Reply Last reply 19 Jan 2021, 18:22 Reply Quote 0
                                        • C Offline
                                          cliffcoggin @ubuntoutou
                                          last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 18:22

                                          @ubuntoutou said in Best recent phone hardware for install ?:

                                          @cliffcoggin OnePlus 6T is only 2 1/2 years old and has a whooping 6 or 8GB of RAM! You can still buy a brand new one.

                                          Not sure why you are telling me. I am happy with my 8 year old Nexus 5 that does everything I need.

                                          P 1 Reply Last reply 20 Jan 2021, 17:01 Reply Quote 0
                                          • P Offline
                                            Peter Gamma @cliffcoggin
                                            last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 17:01

                                            For me personally, the winner is the port of Ubuntu Touch from Joel for the Xiaomi Poco F1 :

                                            https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4611/xiaomi-poco-f1-beryllium

                                            Joel, a passionate inter-disciplinary programmer who loves to code all night:

                                            https://github.com/joelselvaraj

                                            thanks, Joel, for your great work.

                                            PETER GAMMA (Physiologist), MEDITATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE SWITZERLAND

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                            35 out of 63
                                            • First post
                                              35/63
                                              Last post