Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration
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@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
@cibersheep oh yes just noticed that, thx
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What can be weird is that if "4-digit passcode" item is already selected, having to tap on it again to change the pin code prompt.That's where I would go to change it. Now, even if it has ... it does nothing if already selected.
But I see the fingerprints are on the main Security view. Let me make a mockup and let's see if we can find a consistent solution here
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@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
@moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.
Oh, I thought showing the pin was only for the test app to know if that worked.
I don't think is a good idea to have a visible pin code. Or I missed the joke? -
@cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
@moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.
Oh, I thought showing the pin was only for the test app to know if that worked.
I don't think is a good idea to have a visible pin code. Or I missed the joke?This was intentional, the idea was to provide a "test" screen just to be familiar with it in system settings. But i agree, on other platforms, you don't have a "tester", when you choose "pattern", you are asking to create/modify the the pattern.
Here we are in special case where users still define its pin code with keyboard. And i would like users just to choose between default pin code prompt or the "clock" one. Maybe the "tester" is not needed ? And just let user discover it at login time.
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Maybe the option can be added directly in the lock screen. Some kind of a button to switch between modes on the fly. Also, would be great if it also support keyboard input for convergence
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@kugiigi yes that could be an option.
Humm in my previous test keyboard was working, but maybe not in the demo ? -
@kugiigi said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
Maybe the option can be added directly in the lock screen.
I don't think that's a good idea
Also, would be great if it also support keyboard input for convergence
and this is a very good point
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@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
This was intentional, the idea was to provide a "test" screen just to be familiar with it in system settings. But i agree, on other platforms, you don't have a "tester", when you choose "pattern", you are asking to create/modify the the pattern.
I'm not thinking of other platforms
but having the pin code exposed all time. I thought the pin in the test screen was just for testing purpose, not going in system settingsHere we are in special case where users still define its pin code with keyboard. And i would like users just to choose between default pin code prompt or the "clock" one. Maybe the "tester" is not needed ? And just let user discover it at login time.
This is interesting. Maybe what we want to do is detach the pattern from pin (is that possible? You know the code) as a new form of security code (like fingerprints or passphrase). That could make it on its own, simplify the UI but it would need a way to access via mouse or keyboard
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@cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
This is interesting. Maybe what we want to do is detach the pattern from pin (is that possible? You know the code) as a new form of security code (like fingerprints or passphrase). That could make it on its own, simplify the UI but it would need a way to access via mouse or keyboard
So you mean having a list of items like this:
Swipe (no security)...
4-digit passcode
4-digit passcode clock prompt
Passpharse...And click on "4-digit passcode clock prompt" ,would bring you to another page, with a way to create a pin code via the clock ?
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@lduboeuf could that work?
Another planet, another time, another universe!
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@cibersheep i just need to try it but works need to be done
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@cibersheep i admit, this going to add more work. The simplest would have been just to add a toggle to switch between default prompt to the clock one. If you have any mockups it will help me
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@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
@cibersheep i admit, this going to add more work. The simplest would have been just to add a toggle to switch between default prompt to the clock one. If you have any mockups it will help me
I prepare some and will send them to you
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Just tried the demo from the OpenStote.
Looks good, works well. Bonus points for giving us a working tester to try it on, nice work.
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Nice concept.
Is the idea to keep the finger on the screen to unlock or just to press the numbers?
My first instinct was to keep my finger on the clock and swipe the code which felt nice for me
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@quget said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
Is the idea to keep the finger on the screen to unlock or just to press the numbers?
Both. You can test it with the dummy app in the openstore.
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@lduboeuf This is my suggestion for 2 different kind of 4-digit pin
From other security measure to pattern:
- first introduce current pin / passphrase (don't look at that PopUp size)
- introduce pattern
Once set up, tapping on
4-digit pin clock...you can test it or edit. Tap on edit:- Ask for current pattern, if succesful
- Ask for new pattern
Another planet, another time, another universe!
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If you decide to do a selection for the 4-digit pin (classic/clock). I would go like this:
Select 4-digt pin:
- If no other security is set, set it as currently
- If there is other method, ask for current and then the new pin
- Once set, ask for input method
- Tapping on edit:
- if classic, edit with the PopUp (as currently)
- if clock, edit with new clock view
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@cibersheep Thanks for the mockups :), the solution #1 seems to have less screens needed. So i need to dig for that
EDIT: Well i hesitate :), i need to try both ...
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@cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:
@lduboeuf This is my suggestion for 2 different kind of 4-digit pin
From other security measure to pattern:
- first introduce current pin / passphrase (don't look at that PopUp size)
- introduce pattern
Once set up, tapping on
4-digit pin clock...you can test it or edit. Tap on edit:- Ask for current pattern, if succesful
- Ask for new pattern
I've uploaded a quick ( and probably dirty ) prototype for this case, if you want to give a try and feedback. v1.5
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@lduboeuf I have to say something I forgot:
- thanks for working in this
- very, very clever to have a test app to test before hand
