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    Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation

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      • KenedaK Offline
        Keneda @lduboeuf
        last edited by Keneda

        @lduboeuf said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

        Do you think it is ok to remove them, or just let the 4 empty dots placeholder first and allow to increase the dots size as needed ?

        No, you should keep dots, and increase dots number accordingly to the amount of digit the code has.
        This for user to know his action on screen is correctly done.

        Good improvement to pin unlock you're doing though. πŸ‘

        Edit : reading other users, i agree choice seing or not dots would be the best, and for security reason, one dot that has size increase on each input can be a good alternative (why not some choice here too?).

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        • LakotaubpL Offline
          Lakotaubp
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          Are you planning a mix of the two or using parts of this https://open-store.io/app/unlockertest.ld Testeed on 3a running Focal

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          • AppLeeA Offline
            AppLee @lduboeuf
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            Hi @lduboeuf

            Thanks for the work you're doing Lionel :thumbs_up: :clapping_hands:
            I would use the same UX as for password/passphrase with an empty text field.
            At each strike you add a dot to give the user feedback on what they typed.

            Also the OK/Enter button is fine for me.

            Addendum:
            Thoughts for the future πŸ€”
            For security reasons I would also merge password UI and PIN UI.
            I would add a screen asking the user to swipe left or right to get to the alphanum keyboard or the numerical pad...

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            • KenedaK Offline
              Keneda @AppLee
              last edited by

              @applee
              Good proposal.
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              • JakubJ Offline
                Jakub
                last edited by Jakub

                Option to disable visibility of dots or one big dot looks great, also I would add an option to enable/disable auto unlock (without pressing OK button), I personally prefer when phone unlocks right after entering correct PIN without additional key press, because it seems more intuitive.

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                • lduboeufL Offline
                  lduboeuf @Lakotaubp
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                  @lakotaubp said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

                  Are you planning a mix of the two or using parts of this https://open-store.io/app/unlockertest.ld Testeed on 3a running Focal

                  The circle prompt is another story, but i prepared it for the no limit number of digits too.

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                  • jezekJ Offline
                    jezek
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                    Sometimes, when unlocking the screen, the keyboard doesn't show up. Then after clicking on the empty dots, the keyboard pops up. So, when removing them, there should be some visual hint that indicates where to click if the keyboard didn't pop up by accident.

                    jEzEk

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                    • lduboeufL Offline
                      lduboeuf @jezek
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                      @jezek said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

                      Sometimes, when unlocking the screen, the keyboard doesn't show up. Then after clicking on the empty dots, the keyboard pops up. So, when removing them, there should be some visual hint that indicates where to click if the keyboard didn't pop up by accident.

                      Yes known issue, so i've added "enter PIN" to replace the empty dots. And try to display " Tap to enter pin" when un focused. But i have to dig a bit more. Because un focus is also when user just logged in or user start to drag on indicator, and should only be displayed if no physical keyboard.

                      The best would be to tacckle that focus issue...

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                      • lduboeufL Offline
                        lduboeuf @lduboeuf
                        last edited by

                        By discussing this on the TG Q&A group, it appears it is hard to have a mutual agreement.
                        Some people want a more "secure" login some want user friendly UX.

                        So i will try to add an option, to not change actual behavior, i would add opt-out auto-login option.
                        We can still remove the dots placeholder at least an replace it with a text.

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                          Keneda @lduboeuf
                          last edited by Keneda

                          @lduboeuf said in Pin code removal of 4 digits limitation:

                          Some people want a more "secure" login some want user friendly UX.

                          That's why user choice in security options would be the best (from actual behavior, 4 digits, dots, and no need to push enter, to the most secure one with 12 digits, text field, and push enter). πŸ˜‰

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                          • K Offline
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                            Set the minimum to 3 so 3 digits + enter would be like it is now πŸ˜†

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                              • klhK Offline
                                klh @Keneda
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                                @keneda That's how you end up with "password123" everywhere. Not everyone stores sensitive data on their phone + as long as the bootloader is unlocked and data unencrypted any point about security is moot 😜

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                                  Keneda @klh
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                                  @klh
                                  Don't understand why you tell me that πŸ˜…

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                                  • klhK Offline
                                    klh @Keneda
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                                    @keneda Oh, I misunderstood your post as recommending the 12 character, text field and manual submit as the requirements for the screen lock, sorry πŸ˜…

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                                    • Josele13J Offline
                                      Josele13 @lduboeuf
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                                      @lduboeuf Thanks for your work, after thinking twice, at startup would be to put an empty circle blinking, as you fill with the key the empty circle and blinking moves forward, when you finish with the key the filled circles stop and opens directly the screen lock.

                                      Regards...

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                                      • lduboeufL Offline
                                        lduboeuf @Josele13
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                                        @josele13 yes that's an idea ;-).
                                        I think i will just start with the less possible change. Meaning just allowing more than 4 digits and no change regarding UX ( empty dots that have the length of expected pin code and auto-login ).
                                        Improvement can come afterward.

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                                          crumpets
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                                          I love this idea. Im very used to 6 diget codes nowadays so id love this to come to ubuntu touch.

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