Hi @jojumaxx,

Thank you for having the courage to talk about things (convergence), but until now I thought that the core developers were already working on all the urgent things and only talked about what they found interesting in their Q&A shows. But what always bothered me (maybe like you) was that they don't always communicate honestly what and how much they are working on, or maybe nobody really has an overview.

For me, the rescue from the impending exit came with the porting of the Oneplus Nord N100.
I was able to buy an unused device (‘brand new’) for just CHF 120, and now I have a smartphone that can make calls and data traffic (UMTS/3G & LTE/4G => without VoLTE), make hands-free calls (Bluetooth) in the car, and SMS (unfortunately MMS has been dropped in Switzerland), take photos and listen to music. What else I will try out is: Chatapp Delta chat, navigation app and other things.

The chat is not important for me, however, as I can make phone calls, because I am one of those older people who have never realised why people nowadays ‘text’ instead of making phone calls (breaking records in terms of speed on such a stupid thing as a touchscreen) or, even worse, send audio messages.

So my horse is not dead yet.

Greetings Mario

Hi @MrT10001,

Good news! Exactly, Stabil OTA 5 is now also available for this device.

Thank you very much for your help, you are indeed a great help in this forum, because you are friendly, helpful, efficient, not work-shy and also professional in your range.

I had stuck to the device page because it is always kept so high by the forum moderators. Unfortunately (as it turns out) this very page is rarely up to date, which is a bit embarrassing.

A little teasing is a must.

Best wishes to all you dear ones out there
Mario

Hi @Appointed ,

The answer to the forum post question is <NO>.

Because we only guarantee the installation method shown on the device page.
You will also get the quickest help from the forum if you follow it.

Of course, anyone can try a new path here if they have the necessary knowledge and patience.

The forum post can now be set as solved, thank you very much.

Greetings Mario

Hi @zubozrout and @ktatar156,

Despite all the arguments that your and also the above posts contain, which for me contain nothing but conveniences, it in no way gives you permission to express yourself so condescendingly about the work of such a small group of people who do great things here.
And please remember that you are not the only ones, it happens every 3 to 7 weeks that we have to endure such complaints here.

Because for the amenities you are looking for, there is also eOS and others.

Sorry, but I had to give myself breathing room, because my device is first and foremost; simply a phone, over which I am the <master/woman)>. And for that I love the makers and helpers of Ubports with their OS Ubuntu Touch.

With love Mario

Hi @James-T,
I also suspect the socket on the appliance. This usually just needs to be cleaned, for example with a wooden toothpick. If this only improves things for a short time, I would also replace the socket.
Greetings Mario

@007fred50
Hi,
I agree 100% with what @Alter said. And I also think that this app approach does not fit our philosophy of alternative operating system against Android and Apple IO and others.

Greetings Mario

@zbr Welcome zbr,
yes there is still hope.

Try a total reboot by pressing and holding the power button until the device vibrates 3 times in quick succession.
The device should always have enough 'juice' in the battery.

Hi @Rondarius,

I have no idea if Samsung ships devices on which the bootloader cannot be unlocked.
But I own a Samsung S9 (SM-G960F), besides it is one of the most beautiful devices Samsung has ever built (size and look) in my opinion, running the /e/OS.
I use it for online banking with 2AF (two-factor authentication) because of my bank.

I am more of the opinion that the effort for a top port of UT requires a very large amount of work with high skills on the side.
Anyone can find out on the /e/OS website how many top ports exist for the /e/OS on devices, namely just 21.

So the effort involved is simply considerable, and not just for UT.

Greetings Mario

@valar_orome
Hi
It should stand to reason that the instructions, to return to Android, should be sought from the phone provider.
So in this case it would be the following link
https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048050332

By the way:
I dream of an AI forum that would have the ability to allow only new topics, and automatically link similar or even identical questions to the questioner.

There are extremely many posts in this forum at the moment, and the built-in search function rarely brings satisfactory answer selections. This tempts many to simply ask again, and thus to expand the forum again.

One may dream nevertheless times, or?

Hi @thedeafenguy,

So well, you want to get help from a forum that is not responsible, but you are not willing to fully inform people.
Since this forum is about UT, people wanting help you need more info than people on the Fairphone forum, and I still think they could be helped more there.
That means as much info as possible, like, do you have the device first hand, what OS and version was on the device before you got the feeling I could try a bit to put another OS on it. Did you install UT on the device exactly as instructed by the porter? Did UT run flawlessly afterwards? And so on ...

Why don't you ask the FP forum for advice?

So, I don't have a Fairphone or any Fairphone experience, but from what I understand, you must definitely have a newer Fairphone Android OS than what you were using before you installed UT.

And very importantly, after flashing and before booting the device, you should only boot into the bootloader so that you can check the <flag> fastboot flashing get_unlock_ability.
This value should be 1.

After booting the operating system, you should first carry out all other available updates.
Unfortunately, I cannot recommend locking the bootloader, as I simply have no experience with this.

Greetings Mario

Hi @thedeafenguy,

FYI: You are here in the UT Ubports forum, not in <forum.fairphone.com>

So you have a lot of work ahead of you, because my links are in German and you may have to translate them first.

Please read the instructions Install Fairphone OS manually thoroughly first and then I would also read FP4: Factory Reset with installation of Fairphone OS after using LeOS
thoroughly again.

Good luck.

Greetings Mario

Hi @fubuntu,

@fubuntu said in Install with ubports installer resulted in having a debug kernel:

But I also read the fairphone support page, and according to it, flashing with fastboot (downgrading included) should be no issue.

In my opinion, the “anti-rollback function” is an additional security feature to prevent customers from installing older Android versions on their device that are no longer supplied with further security updates.
This would give customers a false sense of security as they would consider their device safe with a locked bootloader.

For developers or customers who use their device as AOSP (Android Open Source Project), however, there is still the option of a rollback or installing a different operating system and using it with an open bootloader at their own risk.

See also source.android: lock and unlock the bootloader.

But I could also misunderstand, nobody is omniscient.

Greetings Mario

Hi @wynn1212,

Wow ---- Wow => Thank you very much.

There are very few such fundamental and logical explanations here in the forum.

I simply had to rate you positively.

Thanks again.

Greetings Mario

Hi @Appointed ,

The answer to the forum post question is <NO>.

Because we only guarantee the installation method shown on the device page.
You will also get the quickest help from the forum if you follow it.

Of course, anyone can try a new path here if they have the necessary knowledge and patience.

The forum post can now be set as solved, thank you very much.

Greetings Mario

Hi @arubislander,

@arubislander said in I am about to give up and leave:

When the partnership with Volla was announced I did not expect UT to have more working features on a Volla phone than on, say, a Pixel 3a. The advantages of a Volla Phone might be pre-installed UT on more capable hardware and company backed customer service. But what features do or don't work, like VoLTE or an ageing browser, have nothing to do with if the phone came with th OS pre-installed or not.

Unfortunately, I have to raise an objection here. I believe that many people here in the forum see things a little differently. Because it has been stated many times that many problems are due to the fact that we don't know how the hardware drivers are written. I must admit I'm too lazy to search the forum at the moment to provide evidence.

Ergo, it is only logical for a user who has no technical or IT knowledge to hope that things will get better when Ubports co-operates with Volla.

Greetings Mario

Hi @jojumaxx,

Thank you for having the courage to talk about things (convergence), but until now I thought that the core developers were already working on all the urgent things and only talked about what they found interesting in their Q&A shows. But what always bothered me (maybe like you) was that they don't always communicate honestly what and how much they are working on, or maybe nobody really has an overview.

For me, the rescue from the impending exit came with the porting of the Oneplus Nord N100.
I was able to buy an unused device (‘brand new’) for just CHF 120, and now I have a smartphone that can make calls and data traffic (UMTS/3G & LTE/4G => without VoLTE), make hands-free calls (Bluetooth) in the car, and SMS (unfortunately MMS has been dropped in Switzerland), take photos and listen to music. What else I will try out is: Chatapp Delta chat, navigation app and other things.

The chat is not important for me, however, as I can make phone calls, because I am one of those older people who have never realised why people nowadays ‘text’ instead of making phone calls (breaking records in terms of speed on such a stupid thing as a touchscreen) or, even worse, send audio messages.

So my horse is not dead yet.

Greetings Mario

Hi @GermanAizek,

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Informal or the operating system or unlocking the bootloader.
I'll relate to the operating system.

LineageOS is an AOSP (Android Open Source Project), i.e. a de facto free Android system. You can find out more on the Internet and Wikipedia.
It also comes from the first successful “free Android operating system” CyanogenMod, which was available from April 2009.

Ergo, the LineageOS makers have a considerable lead in knowledge and experience, I don't think we should compare ourselves with them, but we are catching up.

UT (Ubuntu Touch), on the other hand, is a modified Linux system, modified because it is not desktop.

In other words, potatoes and bread are both food, but they still have to be prepared differently in order to be eaten.

Greetings Mario

Hi @Keneda,

Well, you're probably right, and of course you don't have to tell me that.
But as you have probably noticed many times in our forum, there are different views on what is meant by top porting.

But I think that the eOS team deliberately didn't just put all possible ports in the installer, but only the best ones from their point of view.

My intention was to show that a device porting is not something you can just shake out of your sleeve.

Of course, the people who find it easy to create a Port like this will immediately start to complain and tell me that it's not that difficult after all.

But all I can say with a tired smile is: Oh yes, and where are these people?

Greetings Mario

Hi @Rondarius,

I have no idea if Samsung ships devices on which the bootloader cannot be unlocked.
But I own a Samsung S9 (SM-G960F), besides it is one of the most beautiful devices Samsung has ever built (size and look) in my opinion, running the /e/OS.
I use it for online banking with 2AF (two-factor authentication) because of my bank.

I am more of the opinion that the effort for a top port of UT requires a very large amount of work with high skills on the side.
Anyone can find out on the /e/OS website how many top ports exist for the /e/OS on devices, namely just 21.

So the effort involved is simply considerable, and not just for UT.

Greetings Mario