@Moem That's a fair point. I wasn't trying to argue that Jami is necessarily superior to DeltaChat. DeltaChat is decentralized, supports voice and video calls, and has the advantage of building on existing email infrastructure.

What I find interesting about Jami is its fully peer-to-peer approach and focus on real-time communication without relying on servers operated by a provider. Whether that translates into practical advantages for Ubuntu Touch users is a separate question.

Ubuntu Touch could benefit from a well-integrated, convergence-friendly Jami client. A Jami snap package already exists which sadly lacks the convergency to make it workable on Ubuntu Touch.

@Moem Jami still requires an identity/account and the other party must also use Jami, so it does not solve the network-effect problem. What makes it interesting is its peer-to-peer architecture and lack of dependency on a central service provider. Whether that is an advantage over DeltaChat, Matrix, Signal, etc. depends on the use case.

Jami's main attraction is decentralized real-time communication with integrated voice and video, while DeltaChat builds on email and excels at asynchronous messaging."

@nbdynl We are already using system-level services:
Wi-Fi -> handled by OS
Bluetooth -> handled by OS
Notifications -> handled by OS
Audio -> handled by OS

Now extend that idea:
“Calls and real-time communication become a system service”

Jami is already available for windows, ios, android, linux (as a snap that can install on ubuntu touch but not convergeant)

@nbdynl You’re asking exactly the right hard question here — and it’s also the main reason this topic should get debated.
App-level messaging (what we have today)

What you described is correct:

FluffyChat → Matrix account needed
Element → Matrix account needed
Jitsi Meet → server/session needed
Delta Chat / Signal / Session / Threema → all rely on:
networks
identity systems
other users installing the same app

This is the ecosystem layer

And your conclusion is correct:
If your contacts don’t use it, the app is functionally irrelevant
That is a network effect problem, not a technical one.

Ubuntu Touch currently has multiple messaging solutions (FluffyChat, web apps, and Waydroid Android apps). We have come a long way, but these remain application-level solutions rather than a system-integrated real-time communication layer.

There is still no native system-level solution for real-time voice and video communication. Web apps and Android via Waydroid work, but are not integrated into the Lomiri UX.

I believe Jami could be worth exploring as a convergence-native communication stack to potentially fill this gap, with deeper integration into Lomiri.

@UBportsNews my thanks to everyone who made this release possible. So far it looks great and feels great. First time that we are level with the actual ubuntu lts. congratulations.

@arubislander . You are a genious. Thank you.

@messayisto. No. There is no way to go back because the fastboot command is blocked. Using volume + power button or every trick in the book.
But I just realized this is the wrong channel since I am using the Lenovo tablet X306X M10 HD LTE.

After installing the from the rc 24.04 channel on my Lenovo M10 HD LTE I realised that the overall response of the OS was very sluggish. So I thought to revert to the proven 20.04 channel. Now comes the problem: The fastboot mode is not accessible any more. I followed and tried every link in the net. Unfortunately there is no downgrade option in the update menu. Any proven suggestions?

After installing the from the rc 24.04 channel I noticed that the overall response of the OS is very sluggish. So I thought to revert to the proven 20.04 channel. Now comes the problem: The fastboot mode is not accessible any more. I followed and tried every link in the net. Unfortunately there is no downgrade option in the update menu. Any proven suggestions?

I am using a Pixel 3a with OTA3 stable. I often play aisleriot to kill time. I have noticed that the rendering seems to be off to the right by a number of pixels and probably also in the vertical direction. The cards on the right are slightly off the display. When I try to move any card the hot point is slightly up and to the left. This is quite awkward. This is new since the upgrade to 20.04.

@arubislander Thank you for your reply. I will wait for OTA 3. Someone said it's just around the corner.

@MrT10001 the same is true on my Pixel 3a. Every now and again when I want to use my phone I have to log in like from a restart with my SIM-card PIN and my User Pin. All my notifications wiped clean.

@ullgren nothing worked for me. No changes.

@developerbayman, sorry to say but it didn't work for me. No changes to the previous tries.

@zlamalp I have exactly the same problem on my Pixel 3a. I reported it a few weeks ago. USB not working. No matter what I do. It works perfectly well with my older Aqaris E5Hd. Same OTA 25, same cables. It makes no difference if I use my Desktop or Laptop with Ubuntu 20.04.

@arubislander thanks for your reminding me. I am on the stable channel of Xenial OTA 25. I had forgotten to mention it.

USB connection to my Ubuntu Desktop and Laptop computers does not work anymore. Lsusb with my Pixel3A connected or not produces the same results. I'm on the stable channel of Xenial OTA 25. Has anybody encountered this problem before? This makes file transfer very difficult. I have tried the same with my old Aqaris E5HD also on Xenial OTA 25 stable. It connects without a problem and I can read and write files on this device. Thankful for any help.

@zubozrout
Same here. launching waydroid takes forever. Pixel 3A