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        Moem @jojumaxx
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        @jojumaxx said in Browser limits phone usability:

        That would be great. Did they mention any time this could happen?

        No, but it's a 'it's currently working partially, and the features that don't work yet are being worked on' situation, rather than a 'this is in the plans for the future' one.

        Is currently using an Op5t
        Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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          domubpkm @Moem
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          @Moem said in Browser limits phone usability:

          another browser in the works

          Hello.
          Is this a morph update (QtWebEngine) or a real new browser? @Lakotaubp some links about ? Thanks

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            domubpkm @Ian
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            @Ian said in Browser limits phone usability:

            Specifically I can't buy stuff from Screwfix

            If you use a smartphone running Xenial, obviously, it will no longer work. With my Volla running Focal, I can reach the login page of the French mobile site. But I don't have an account so I won't test further.

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              Moem @domubpkm
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              @domubpkm said in Browser limits phone usability:

              Is this a morph update (QtWebEngine) or a real new browser?

              A real new browser with a different rendering engine, if i recall correctly. Alfred was talking about it.

              Is currently using an Op5t
              Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                Ian @domubpkm
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                @domubpkm I have a Vollaphone X running Focal OTA 4. I can browse their site and add things to my basket but I am unable to pay. Very frustrating. For those of you not in the UK Screwfix is a suplier of DIY goods.

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                  Bolly @Moem
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                  Hello @Moem

                  @Moem said in Browser limits phone usability:

                  @domubpkm said in Browser limits phone usability:

                  Is this a morph update (QtWebEngine) or a real new browser?

                  A real new browser with a different rendering engine, if i recall correctly. Alfred was talking about it.

                  Could it be this one?

                  https://mastodon.social/@fredldotme/112393573256992836
                  https://mastodon.social/@fredldotme/112394199074682010

                  2015-Now (Daily use) : BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu edition
                  2016-Now (Daily use) : BQ Aquaris M10 FHD Betatester

                  2020-Now : PinePhone Braveheart & CE UBports
                  2020-Now (Family/Daily use): Vollaphone Xenial
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                    Moem @Bolly
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                    @Bolly said in Browser limits phone usability:

                    Could it be this one?

                    Yes, I do believe that's it!
                    Be sure not to miss the Q&A tonight, you might hear more 😉

                    Is currently using an Op5t
                    Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                      Lakotaubp @domubpkm
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                      @domubpkm Some details in here https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/post/ubuntu-touch-q-a-139-3924

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                        kugiigi
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                        Sadly this is indeed a major problem right now since UT relies more on the web than the mainstream OSes. The issue with QtWebEngine/Chromium is a tricky thing to fix unless we find a way to move to Qt6 quickly and even then, we'll still have the problem of being always behind.
                        The browser Alfred is experimenting with is using Webkit which is what Apple uses in Safari and iOS browsers. It's very promising so far and progressing well. I guess it can already be a good workaround on some transactional sites. Currently, it still lacks basic functions though like for example good media playback and even pinch zoom. Hopefully, it can be released soon to the general public as an alternative for sites that are essential to some users that doesn't work properly in Morph anymore.

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                          jojumaxx @moodroid
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                          @moodroid said in Browser limits phone usability:

                          A great tip from @arubislander is to add MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 to the exec in firefox.desktop

                          I tried that but noticed no difference.
                          Can you tell me exactly where to put that (line number) and what effect this is supposed to have?

                          Happily running Ubuntu Touch:

                          • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
                          • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                          • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                          • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                          • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
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                          • Volla Phone X
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                            moodroid @jojumaxx
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                            @jojumaxx Hi

                            In /home/phablet/.cache/libertine-container/focal/rootfs/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop

                            replace each occurrence of:
                            Exec=firefox ...
                            with:
                            Exec=env MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 firefox ...

                            lines 153, 200 and 222

                            Does that not allow you to do scrolling etc. with the touchscreen?

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                              domubpkm @kugiigi
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                              @kugiigi All one can wish for is, unlike morph and QtWebEngine, simplified updates (much less amount of development work) to ensure continued compatibility of websites.

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                                uxes
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                                this firefox is pretty good https://gitlab.com/debclick/uFirefox/-/jobs/6640346479/artifacts/raw/build/aarch64-linux-gnu/app/firefox.fuseteam_0.4_arm64.click

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                                  jojumaxx @moodroid
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                                  @moodroid said in Browser limits phone usability:

                                  In /home/phablet/.cache/libertine-container/focal/rootfs/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop

                                  replace each occurrence of:
                                  Exec=firefox ...
                                  with:
                                  Exec=env MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 firefox ...

                                  lines 153, 200 and 222

                                  Does that not allow you to do scrolling etc. with the touchscreen?

                                  Thank you very much!
                                  I had put "env MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1" after "Exec=firefox..." not before that, so that was probably my mistake. And I missed the first of the three appearances.
                                  I can use the touchscreen now for scrolling etc. That's a great thing! It's pretty smooth in my opinion :smiling_face:
                                  The only flaw is, that the onscreen keyboard doesn't always come up e.g. to type a new URL... Switching to another app and back seems to be a workaround.

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                                  • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
                                  • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                                  • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                                  • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                                  • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
                                  • Volla Phone
                                  • Volla Phone X
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                                    moodroid @jojumaxx
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                                    @jojumaxx excellent. Hope it does the job for you until this new browser appears

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                                      messayisto @uxes
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                                      @uxes "site not found" -? when I click on the link.

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                                        domubpkm @messayisto
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                                        @messayisto last artifact two weeks ago
                                        https://gitlab.com/debclick/uFirefox/-/jobs/6725276670/artifacts/download?file_type=archive

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                                          messayisto @domubpkm
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                                          @domubpkm thanks!

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                                              domubpkm
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                                              For uFirefox debclicks info see https://gitlab.com/debclick/uFirefox/-/issues/1

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