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        domubpkm @Ian
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        @Ian said in Browser limits phone usability:

        Specifically I can't buy stuff from Screwfix

        If you use a smartphone running Xenial, obviously, it will no longer work. With my Volla running Focal, I can reach the login page of the French mobile site. But I don't have an account so I won't test further.

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          Moem @domubpkm
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          @domubpkm said in Browser limits phone usability:

          Is this a morph update (QtWebEngine) or a real new browser?

          A real new browser with a different rendering engine, if i recall correctly. Alfred was talking about it.

          Is currently using an Op5t
          Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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            Ian @domubpkm
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            @domubpkm I have a Vollaphone X running Focal OTA 4. I can browse their site and add things to my basket but I am unable to pay. Very frustrating. For those of you not in the UK Screwfix is a suplier of DIY goods.

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              Bolly @Moem
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              Hello @Moem

              @Moem said in Browser limits phone usability:

              @domubpkm said in Browser limits phone usability:

              Is this a morph update (QtWebEngine) or a real new browser?

              A real new browser with a different rendering engine, if i recall correctly. Alfred was talking about it.

              Could it be this one?

              https://mastodon.social/@fredldotme/112393573256992836
              https://mastodon.social/@fredldotme/112394199074682010

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              2016-Now (Daily use) : BQ Aquaris M10 FHD Betatester

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              2022-Now (Family/Daily use): Vollaphone 22 Focal

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                Moem @Bolly
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                @Bolly said in Browser limits phone usability:

                Could it be this one?

                Yes, I do believe that's it!
                Be sure not to miss the Q&A tonight, you might hear more 😉

                Is currently using an Op5t
                Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                  Lakotaubp @domubpkm
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                  @domubpkm Some details in here https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/post/ubuntu-touch-q-a-139-3924

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                    kugiigi
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                    Sadly this is indeed a major problem right now since UT relies more on the web than the mainstream OSes. The issue with QtWebEngine/Chromium is a tricky thing to fix unless we find a way to move to Qt6 quickly and even then, we'll still have the problem of being always behind.
                    The browser Alfred is experimenting with is using Webkit which is what Apple uses in Safari and iOS browsers. It's very promising so far and progressing well. I guess it can already be a good workaround on some transactional sites. Currently, it still lacks basic functions though like for example good media playback and even pinch zoom. Hopefully, it can be released soon to the general public as an alternative for sites that are essential to some users that doesn't work properly in Morph anymore.

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                      jojumaxx @moodroid
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                      @moodroid said in Browser limits phone usability:

                      A great tip from @arubislander is to add MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 to the exec in firefox.desktop

                      I tried that but noticed no difference.
                      Can you tell me exactly where to put that (line number) and what effect this is supposed to have?

                      Happily running Ubuntu Touch:

                      • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
                      • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                      • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                      • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                      • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
                      • Volla Phone
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                        moodroid @jojumaxx
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                        @jojumaxx Hi

                        In /home/phablet/.cache/libertine-container/focal/rootfs/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop

                        replace each occurrence of:
                        Exec=firefox ...
                        with:
                        Exec=env MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 firefox ...

                        lines 153, 200 and 222

                        Does that not allow you to do scrolling etc. with the touchscreen?

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                          domubpkm @kugiigi
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                          @kugiigi All one can wish for is, unlike morph and QtWebEngine, simplified updates (much less amount of development work) to ensure continued compatibility of websites.

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                            uxes
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                            this firefox is pretty good https://gitlab.com/debclick/uFirefox/-/jobs/6640346479/artifacts/raw/build/aarch64-linux-gnu/app/firefox.fuseteam_0.4_arm64.click

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                              jojumaxx @moodroid
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                              @moodroid said in Browser limits phone usability:

                              In /home/phablet/.cache/libertine-container/focal/rootfs/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop

                              replace each occurrence of:
                              Exec=firefox ...
                              with:
                              Exec=env MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 firefox ...

                              lines 153, 200 and 222

                              Does that not allow you to do scrolling etc. with the touchscreen?

                              Thank you very much!
                              I had put "env MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1" after "Exec=firefox..." not before that, so that was probably my mistake. And I missed the first of the three appearances.
                              I can use the touchscreen now for scrolling etc. That's a great thing! It's pretty smooth in my opinion :smiling_face:
                              The only flaw is, that the onscreen keyboard doesn't always come up e.g. to type a new URL... Switching to another app and back seems to be a workaround.

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                              • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                              • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                              • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                              • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
                              • Volla Phone
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                                moodroid @jojumaxx
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                                @jojumaxx excellent. Hope it does the job for you until this new browser appears

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                                  messayisto @uxes
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                                  @uxes "site not found" -? when I click on the link.

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                                    domubpkm @messayisto
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                                    @messayisto last artifact two weeks ago
                                    https://gitlab.com/debclick/uFirefox/-/jobs/6725276670/artifacts/download?file_type=archive

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                                      messayisto @domubpkm
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                                      @domubpkm thanks!

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                                          domubpkm
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                                          For uFirefox debclicks info see https://gitlab.com/debclick/uFirefox/-/issues/1

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                                            messayisto @messayisto
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                                            @messayisto this artifact doesn't work on opo5, rc, focal. It is installed, but has no icon. It is shown under installed apps, but cannot be opened by openstore.
                                            (Sadly I have no logs, I deinstalled the click again, because I use my phone as a daily driver and didn't want to risk anything, sorry for that.)

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                                              jojumaxx
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                                              I realized, after I set up Firefox, that a Vim shortcut appeared in my app drawer.
                                              It does nothing, when tapped.

                                              I didn't install anything but Firefox in my Libertine container, therefore I can't uninstall it.
                                              Where does a Vim shortcut come from? Is that connected to installing Firefox or the Libertine container itself?

                                              I don't like a shortcut without functionality...
                                              Should I remove the .desktop file?

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                                              • BQ Aquaris E5 HD (Retired)
                                              • BQ Aquaris M10 HD (Retired)
                                              • Meizu MX4 Pro (Retired)
                                              • Meizu Pro 5 (Retired)
                                              • PinePhone UBPorts Edition
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