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How to set Desktop Mode off and make it stick?

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      dtarrant @kugiigi
      last edited by 10 May 2022, 20:44

      @kugiigi
      I like your previous suggestion of putting the gsettings command in ~/.config/upstart/....
      For me, nano and vi look very tedious to learn and use.
      After a quick play, Seabass2 looks much easier, so I will give that a try and let you know how I get on.
      Watch this space!
      In the words of Pete Juliano:
      "If you know stuff, you can do stuff" ☺

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        dtarrant @kugiigi
        last edited by 11 May 2022, 23:38

        @kugiigi @Luksus
        So I put the gsettings command in ~/.config/upstart/...
        using Seabass2.
        I did not succeed in making the tablet start in staged mode.
        I did notice a few things:

        1. My BQ M10 tablet file manager enables access to ~/.config but the TB-X605F does not.
        2. Seabass2 can access ~/.config on the BQ, but not on the Lenovo.
        3. Seabass2 was harder to use that I anticipated.
        4. On the Lenovo, I had to use the command line to access ~/.config/upstart/... and add my gsettings command.
          Next I will re-visit the other suggestions that have been offered and try a different approach.
          It's worrying that the Lenovo behaves differently to the BQ.
          Looks like the Lenovo may have some significant bugs.
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          Luksus @dtarrant
          last edited by 12 May 2022, 06:48

          @dtarrant Do you have set a lock-password (sudo-password) on the X605?

          Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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            Lakotaubp
            last edited by 13 May 2022, 06:02

            @Luksus just to let you know @dtarrant is having a problem logging in to answer your question (guessed it was this). We are trying to sort out the issue. Thanks.

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              dtarrant @Luksus
              last edited by 17 May 2022, 15:19

              @luksus @Lakotaubp
              Sorry about the delay to reply. I had a problem logging in which took a while to fix. Anyhow, in answer to your question about having a passcode set, yes I did. I will explain further:

              I have been using my BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition as a reference. On this tablet, file manager can't see .config/etc until I unlock the 4-digit passcode, then it becomes accessible.

              On my Lenovo TB-X605F, also using a 4-digit passcode, .config/etc was not accessible even after unlocking.
              If I recall correctly, I couldn't access .config/etc with Seabass2 either, whilst it was possible from my BQ M10.

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                kugiigi @dtarrant
                last edited by 17 May 2022, 18:59

                @dtarrant That's really weird. Maybe the port has apparmor/permission issues?

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                  Luksus @kugiigi
                  last edited by 17 May 2022, 20:41

                  @kugiigi
                  no there are no permission issues... I just tried it on my device.

                  @dtarrant
                  did you enable "show hidden files" in file-manager settings? Though that would not change the view in Seabass.

                  Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                    dtarrant @Luksus
                    last edited by dtarrant 17 May 2022, 22:27

                    @luksus
                    Regarding file-manager hidden files:
                    I unlocked "restricted access" which gave me access to .config/upstart on the BQ, but on the Lenovo, did not.

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                      Luksus @dtarrant
                      last edited by 18 May 2022, 06:36

                      @dtarrant yes, I know what you mean. But initially hidden folders and files are 'hidden', so you additionally need to make them appear with the following setting (if you not already did it):

                      2022-05-18T06:33:00.878Z.png

                      Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                        dtarrant @Luksus
                        last edited by 18 May 2022, 08:57

                        @luksus
                        I cannot find that settings screen on my Lenovo tablet.
                        I have looked at file-manager settings and also system settings.
                        Please can you explain exactly how to reach that page.

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                          Keneda @dtarrant
                          last edited by Keneda 18 May 2022, 13:52

                          @dtarrant said in How to set Desktop Mode off and make it stick?:

                          @luksus
                          I cannot find that settings screen on my Lenovo tablet.
                          I have looked at file-manager settings and also system settings.
                          Please can you explain exactly how to reach that page.

                          It's in file manager, check the "1" red circle in the @Luksus picture above, touch this icon on your file manager and it'll pop those settings.

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                            Luksus @dtarrant
                            last edited by 18 May 2022, 14:11

                            @dtarrant
                            Video:
                            https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S4q4MkoCAMyW63pyv2PkjZ0fdaXWYPFo/view?usp=sharing

                            Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                              dtarrant @Keneda
                              last edited by dtarrant 18 May 2022, 15:33

                              @keneda @Luksus
                              Brilliant! With the help of your diagram and the video, I am now able to display hidden files on the Lenovo tablet.
                              I will now try to find a way to automate opening Lenovo in staged mode.

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                                dtarrant @dtarrant
                                last edited by 18 May 2022, 15:43

                                @Keneda @Luksus
                                Correction, intended to say " open Lenovo in staged mode"
                                Tried to edit but post wasn't updated, don't know why. Edit usually works for me.

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                                  Keneda @dtarrant
                                  last edited by Keneda 18 May 2022, 16:32

                                  @dtarrant
                                  Did you erase your previous post on purpose ?
                                  I can restore it if you want.

                                  I can read in it "I will now try to find a way to automate opening Lenovo in staged mode"

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                                    dtarrant @Keneda
                                    last edited by 19 May 2022, 02:16

                                    @Keneda
                                    Please restore it. Thanks

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                                      Keneda @dtarrant
                                      last edited by 19 May 2022, 03:37

                                      @dtarrant
                                      Done ^^

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                                        dtarrant @Luksus
                                        last edited by 19 May 2022, 16:18

                                        @luksus @Keneda @Lakotaubp
                                        With much help from community members, I have mastered the art of using file manager to access hidden folders and files.
                                        I now intend to attempt to create a staged mode startup file located in ~/.config/upstart
                                        I'll keep you posted.
                                        I may be gone a while!

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                                          MrT10001 @dtarrant
                                          last edited by 20 May 2022, 09:41

                                          @dtarrant I have been following your progress. I hope it works what you are doing. I have seen issues with read and write permissions on the file system, simple things like setting a background.

                                          Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
                                          I have too many devices...

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                                            dtarrant @MrT10001
                                            last edited by arubislander 21 May 2022, 02:05

                                            @mrt10001 @Luksus @Keneda @Pulsar33
                                            So, I created a startup file set-staged in ~/.config/upstart, closed the Lenovo, took a deep breath and powered back on.
                                            Sadly, it did not start in staged mode.
                                            Here is a listing of set-staged:

                                            start on started unity8
                                            exec gsettings set com.canonical.Unity8 usage-mode staged
                                            

                                            I'm a novice, so I won't be offended if someone points out my silly mistake.

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