@theprivacydad Hi!
First, it is strongly recommended not to install apps via apt. More technical users could explain this better, but my understanding is that it's because of the immutable root file system. Installing via the Open Store, Libertine, or Snaps are the recommended ways.

Not sure why the keyboard pops up when long-clicking to paste, but maybe cause some people are used to using copy/paste from the swipe-up menu at the bottom of the keyboard? I do love that menu for text selection.

Browsers are of course one of the main pain points right now. Morph is slated to get a major update to Qt6, but this may not happen for some months.
In addition to uWolf, there's also uFirefox, which isn't in the Openstore, but can be installed via a click package. This seems to be the most recent: https://gitlab.com/debclick/uFirefox/-/jobs/11063789436/artifacts/file/build/aarch64-linux-gnu/app/firefox.fuseteam_142_arm64.click
Download the .click file, and open with Openstore.
Not being IN the Openstore means it's not reviewed by the Openstore.. all I can say is that my impression is Fuseteam has been around UBports a long time and seems to be a trusted member of the community.
Not sure if one can make webapps from non-Morph browsers or not.

The full system access warning that you see for uWolf in the Openstore is by comparison to most apps being confined - sandboxed by default. This is a major feature of Ubuntu Touch, almost all apps are, and need permissions to access things from other apps, via ContentHub. Privacy-wise, it's a huge asset. I'm sure it makes things like KeePass harder to implement though.

My two cents, as a non-technical user who's been using UT as his sole phone since 2020, is that the longer you use it the easier it gets. There's definitely a learning curve, and sometimes it's just a question of finding other ways to do a thing that doesn't work the way you'd hoped. Some things are lacking and imperfect, but I've always found it incredible not just that there was a true Linux OS for phones that's so usable, but that it's so pleasant to use.
To my mind, as data collection grows and grows, (and as authoritarianism rises worldwide) the need for smartphone alternatives starts to seem kinda dire. AOSP-based ROMs are good until Google decides not to share anymore, which it kinda sounds like they're already starting to do.

Thanks for checking out and writing about UT! Whatever your review, good to get the word out.
Hope it winds up being a good, useable OS for you!

I know this is an old thread, but it seemed the most relevant place to report:

Today I received a cell broadcast! Emergency alert test in Ontario, Canada. Running 20.04 OTA-6 on a Oneplus 5T.
Phone was on silent, so I just heard the vibrations and saw the message.

Way to go team! Many thanks to Lionel and others who've worked on this!

Clarification for future readers of this post that might be considering Ubuntu Touch in Canada: All 3 major Canadian networks have stated that they're maintaining 3G until December 2025. Different story in the USA, where at different points in 2022, the major networks discontinued 3G.

In Canada, Ubuntu Touch is very much usable as a phone. Telephone calls, SMS, MMS photos, audio, and video all work as expected for me. (Group texts do not, and MMS has caused me plenty of headaches in general, though I think I've got a stable setup now.)

Hopefully VOLTE can work soon. I'm much too inept to be of use in that quest other than to keep donating to UBports and crossing my fingers. My enduring gratitude to those working to make UT better. It's already improved considerably since I started using it in late 2020.

Big thank yous @Moem for showing your work on this and @danfro for getting an up to date Cinny app for us all. Really, really appreciated!

A bunch of work has gone into browsers, but nothing's working perfectly for now.
For me, Morph is still doing the job for the most part. I allow it to keep tabs open from session to session, and put passwords in when I need to.
uFirefox has filled the gap for some websites that didn't work, although now there's uWolf, a fork of Librewolf, that I hear is making a lot of progress.
My understanding is that the idea is to package whatever Qt 6 components are needed with Morph in 24.04, and then we'll have a much more up to date browser. And ideally a Firefox based browser like uWolf too. There was even impressive work on a Webkit based browser, Mimi.

As for email, mine happens to work fine in Morph. I haven't used Dekko in a while. Maybe the dev has stepped back or been busy and nobody stepped up to take theIr place? I didn't realize it had so many issues, but the answer to why there isn't (x) in UT is because you and I didn't do it.
But I appreciate that you know this, and maybe others will have solutions/workarounds to specific Dekko 2 issues.

Overall, a tonne of work and resources have been going into the upgrade to 24.04 and some other major improvements, like VoLTE, and encryption. Big, big accomplishments.
After 24.04 lands/stabilizes, perhaps somebody will have time for Dekko.

Welcome back! Hope you find solutions that work for you!

@Futura Thanks for the thoughts, and the tact with which you handle UT's shortcomings for your situation.

I'm surprised by your SMS experience. I've never heard of this delay before. I use SMS and MMS and it's more or less instantaneous.
It may be the case that on some devices, VoLTE is causing issues with SMS/MMS? And I heard that it's not working yet in 24.04. But both VoLTE and 24.04 that are in beta, and are being worked on.

As a fellow North American, I share your desire for RCS. It's not that I'm in love with the format - personally I hope the EU succeeds in making messenger apps interoperable the way email is. The problem is that that people here send RCS/MMS with the absolute expectation that it will be received, because it's free with every plan. Major problem here when it doesn't work.
My impression is that few if any of the core developers of UT are North American, and in most places in the world, RCS/MMS is hardly used, and definitely not taken as a given for anybody with a smartphone the way that it is here.
This said, group messages aside, MMS works pretty well for most people! Photos between myself and those using iOS and Android phones default to MMS and go through fine. I've always had the odd quirk, and sometimes would miss messages without seeing any notification, but I found a carrier where I always do at least get a message that an MMS couldn't be downloaded.
Unfortunately there aren't any easy answers to get RCS. UBports is driven by volunteers, devs are expensive, and the work is time consuming. There have been a tonne of big things to solve lately, and that are being solved / have been solved! From a global perspective many things are just bigger priorities than RCS.
Often we North Americans can tend to think that the world revolves around us, and it really, really doesn't. In a UT context, we need to learn to fix our problems ourselves and not expect volunteers to want to solve problems that don't apply to them or those around them when there are bigger fish to fry.
So I guess you and I can learn to be wizards at coding, find local devs willing to take this on, or raise a large enough bounty to make it worth somebody's time. Bounties seem not to be impossible, but I think it takes a lot to make it truly worthwhile.
Meanwhile, you could play with APN settings, borrow a SIM or take a cheap plan to try different carriers, and see if you can get SMS and MMS working normally, and support the UT project in any way you can.

Flatpaks sounds great, but again, it takes somebody doing it.
Without any interest in wading into a Flatpak vs Snaps debate, I'll mention that we do already have Snaps. To my mind, effort might be better spent getting more apps from Snaps working in a UT setting. Most Linux apps aren't exactly made for mobile, and whether we have Flatpak or Snaps, it's not going to mean that everything just works.
Meanwhile, some of us get by ok without using Waydroid at all, and with more up to date browser coming along, it'll get even easier to use more websites rather than apps.

One thing that us non-devs CAN do is communicate about the current state of affairs. I've always liked the Forum for this - easily searched and read by anyone. I feel that the website Devices page does a fairly good job too, and the Q&As are great!
But we can all brainstorm the best way to communicate things, pitch our ideas, and make it happen. https://ubports.com/community-center

Hope you're already able to solve the issues you're having and are able to use UT successfully and happily!

Pure Maps, " Slim and " Unconfined are all available in the OpenStore as viewed from 20.04 again.
Thanks Jonatan!

Cool! Thanks for the demos, nice to see your progress! This is going to be very useful.
Thanks so much for all your work!

Hey @shodan,
Welcome to the community!
I wouldn't give up on the phones you got just yet. After a quick bit of searching, I can't find any such phone as a Oneplus N10 Metro. I don't know much about these things, but could the device be locked to a cell carrier called Metro, and maybe that's coming up in the installer? In searching for a Oneplus N10 Metro, I noticed there's a cell company in the USA called Metro that seems to supply Oneplus N10. Sometimes a device is locked to a carrier, but often it is possible to unlock it. May be worth searching online for how to unlock the phone from Metro? But again, I'm really not sure this is the case.

Also, I see that you have Android 11 installed. In the device page for the OP N10, if you scroll down a ways, it states that you'll need to be using a specific version, Oxygen 10.5.7 or something. The system image or whatever you call it is conveniently linked from the device page. You'll need to download that file and install that version of android before installing Ubuntu Touch.

The other main thing you'll need to do , probably before downgrading, is unlock the bootloader. Search online for how. Takes a bit of doing, but it's all doable.

General installation instructions for Ubuntu Touch are found on the installer page.

Hope it turns out that your devices are what you thought they were, and useable for UT!

@RJDan This topic is for testing 20.04 OTA 10. Sounds like you've upgraded to 24.04. There's a separate topic for 24.04.

I think apps not opening makes sense. Not all will work out of box on 24.04, and will require action by the app developer.
If you've gone to 24.04 without intending to, maybe wait for somebody more knowledgeable than me to suggest how to go back. I thiiink you should just be able to flash 20.04 Stable / RC without erasing data and that should be fine? But I'm not sure.

@idonthatevests Interesting. For what it's worth, I'm very confident that mine was glitchy before I ever installed uFirefox. I did have Ambot Installer for the more limited Lomiri toolkit, but I'm not sure whether ithas anything to do with that.
Mine always seems to glitch out after notification/SMS.

I always kinda figured something about my install was messed up, though I did install what I thought was the appropriate firmware and do the whole MSM&EDL mode thing.

I mostly ignored this issue thinking that if it only affected my phone, it's not that important. But it'd be handy if we could pin it down.

@idonthatevests Does this glitch involve the screen flickering? Does it seem to occur in conjunction with incoming notifications/messages?
I don't have solutions, just have yet to encounter anyone with the same issue as me, and this sounds similar. Only the reboot to Fastboot saves me.

@shengchieh I would agree that Oneplus N10 best matches your specifications, and that the BE2026 version is your best bet for unlocking. This is assuming you are in USA, as I don't know of anywhere else where there's any talk of sunsetting 4G.

@bgriffis Hmm.. yeah, if WiFi being off didn't fix it, it's worth considering whether it's the two APN settings vs one setting thing. Plenty of folks have had it work one way but not the other - mostly I've heard of North Americans needing two separate settings.
For me in the past, MMS only worked if I had two APN settings AND the APN & MMSC for MMS did not match the APN & MMSC used for Internet. I got around this by finding a "tethering" APN for my carrier and using that as the Internet setting, and the normal APN for my MMS.

I still do get the same message as you, "Could not fetch...", for maybe 10 or 20% of incoming MMS messages, and clicking Download only yields a second (and third, and fourth..) such message. But if the I ask the sender to resend the same file, it generally does work the second time. I have never been able to figure out why this happens.

@Bushman77 Nope! UBports Foundation does not maintain device ports. It's all done by people like you.
If you have the skills, or the desire to learn, you could be the person who brings Ubuntu Touch to this device. Otherwise, as with any device, there's no grand plan to port UT to it.

@peat_psuwit This has fixed the problem I had upon updating to OTA-11 where I stopped receiving incoming SMS, and reflashing with the installer did not fix it. Fantastic news for me, though I don't know of any others who had quite this issue.

This update also brings VoLTE and 5G to Oneplus Nord N10. I made my first VoLTE call ever in UT! I haven't stumbled into a 5G zone yet to test.
SMS, MMS, mobile data are all funtioning perfectly so far. Everything else is functioning as normal too. I'll post again if I run into any issues.

Thanks so much to everybody who worked on this!

@UTUS I second the assessment of @rocket2nfinity .
I've always found MMS a bit quirky, but largely it works except for group messages. Can vary a bit depending on provider and APN settings.
Group messages have been a known issue for 5+ years, Ibelieve there's just no fix. I receive nothing, no notification, no error, when someone sends a group message. No way to know anything was sent. I just tell my contacts I can't do group texts. It's more awkward now that iOS picked up RCS.. everyone expects group messages should work.
So far as I know, RCS is on the radar of the devs, but not really even a work in progress yet.. they do incredible work with few people, mostly unpaid.
In Canada, this is the most unusable part of UT. Otherwise it's great! Somehow even my banking works, though this isn't the case for most.

Definitely look into bootloader unlocking before buying. Surest way, as stated, is BE2026 (North American version, non-carrier specific). Most people succeed in getting an unlock token from Oneplus eventually, but they now seem to say they only send one when given proof of purchase from an official vendor or something.

Downgrading to aporopriate Android is a bit tricky.. follow the instructions, using MSM tool and EDL mode. You'll figure it out!

@libremax Wow, nice! Thanks to whoever did the work and thanks for letting me know!

@pparent Thanks for posting that article, I hadn't heard.

Low probability of success can be offset by low cost and high value of success.
I think the moment we're in presents opportunity like never before. In addition to the French government looking at digital sovereignty, the Danish government is trying to get away from American tech companies. I could imagine many other governments may be considering this.

We don't have the interoperability rules here in Canada, but I'm still going to be suggesting to my member of parliament and a couple of ministers that the government should be proactive in examining and acting on the threat posed by the fact that most members of our government, military, and general populace use privacy-intrusive smartphone OSes controlled by a couple USA-based tech companies whose CEOs have already demonstrated a willingness to comply with what increasingly demonstrates itself to be an aggressive and authoritarian government.
(I respect the forum's rules about not getting political and hope this didn't cross any lines, but I think what I said is factual and relevant to the point I'm making. I'm not taking a position here on whether annexation is cool, just trying to explain why I think there's an opportunity for UT.)

Matrix has benefited from being adopted by various governments and militaries, even if in pilot projects. The challenge is much greater with mobile OS adoption, but if the resources and the need are there, it doesn't seem impossible.
My government, for example, is suddenly trying to spend vastly more than ever before on the military and routinely falls short of its spending targets. I could make the argument that a secure, private and functional mobile OS is of strategic military importance
And I will! Opportunities like this don't always last very long.

@ChromiumOS-Guy Thanks for the response. Didn't realize the website had a repo, but I very much don't understand the world of repos yet. Sloooowly learning things
Glad the issue is raised. Don't want to badger the website team, they do plenty!

A number of times people have posted along the lines of "Why is VoLTE listed as unsupported?" While it's important not to overpromise, at this point I think the claim that "VoLTE is not suppoted" isn't informing people properly.

I'd suggest

• a rewording of the Global Issue along the lines of "VoLTE remains in the (experimental? beta?) stage, and functionality cannot be guaranteed"
• the addition of a new category under Cellular, "VoLTE", which at present could be listed as "Partia" for any devices with VoLTE abilities and "Not Working" for the rest.
  -perhaps also considering 5G at the same time?

Maybe if people think this change is a good idea we could help the website folks with wording and with which devices should be listed as Partial.
Open to thoughts. Many thanks to the website team for considering this, and for the excellent website!