@wally
Hey, there is zero confusion on the name for the record. I did make a joke on a thread about dailying a "daily" b/c its unstable but I knew full well what I was getting into and it was the best option at the time.
Hate to re-flash as this was the install where the stars aligned and things worked that have not the other 9 million times I have installed troubleshooting.
Is there a beta channel for the FP5 or is that just considered the daily channel?
@arubislander said in Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.0 Beta 1 is now available for testing:
@Futura Isn't daily the development release?
I am thinking this might be causing unintended confusion... it seems people might be thinking that 'daily' means it is deemed suitable for daily usage, while in fact it means there are daily updates, since it is the development version.
Yes AFAIK it is the development and it is far less problematic than 20.04 on my device.
I just want to switch from dev to beta channel prior to 24.04 beta 2. but it seems to only see daily in the updater on the device.
@peat_psuwit said in Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.0 Beta 1 is now available for testing:
gsettings set io.ubuntu-touch.system-settings.update offer-development-release true
I am currently on 24.04 daily (567) and daily is the only release channel listed in the updater, does the above command apply only to 20.04 or will it be the same on 24.04?
@johndoe
FP5 here running 24.04 with VOLTE working just dandy.
I will agree that most "normies" who just want to run XYZ app regardless are not well suited for ANY mobile Linux OS at the moment.
Personally I find that hardened Android (I am talking no GAPPS) is a really similar experience to UT, with all the yucky feelings associated with Android and its spyware.
For me, something new and fresh with say a weather app that is made to show you the weather and not catalogue your every move and sell them to any data broker willing to pay is well worth not running some applications. I not going to use Waydroid in any capacity, everything can be done in a browser on a PC. Since I switched to UT my relationship with my cell is a lot healthier, a lot of the time I just leave it home which was unheard of when I used Android/IOS.
I found the strangest coincidence possibly but I think it potentially solved this whole issue. Here is what happened.
Re-downloaded and deleted all images/installers I had been using for both Android and UT
I am not sure if this is the fix coming in beta 2, but its miles better than my experience yesterday!
Is there anyone here in the US with t-mobile?
With Android flashed everything is fine. UT will not no matter what APN settings I use get data of any kind without WIFI.
Just wondering if anyone else has this or can share what is working with them?
Thank you for the update. If there is anything I can do to help please let me know.
Hey everyone,
FP5 here, been on 24.04.x for a couple of weeks here and its been fairly smooth.
What can I do to help with MMS? I am not a coder, but I do have a fair amount of experience troubleshooting PC hardware and software professionally.
MMS is one of those essential things that will make using this as my daily a whole lot more comfortable.
Thanks for all your hard work!
I had this exact issue where it endlessly prompts for your WIFI credentials and never actually connects.
Installing the Daily 24.04.01 resolves this, and you can tell right away if its going to work b/c the credentials screen is dark theme for some reason when it works.
I am currently on 24.04.01 Daily and having a weird issue with MMS at the moment...
@wally
The lack of MMS was a big sticking point for me, good to know it might just take some messing around to get it working. Hopefully the new APN settings will resolve my sms/mms issues.
@arubislander
Good to know! Once I get the SMS/MMS issues ironed out I will do some playing around and see what I can come up with.
If I could somehow get bitwarden and firefox I would be set. The default browser is pretty rough with the scaling bug on the FP5.
Quick question for everyone here. Is MMS working for you all?
@wally
Thanks for the info and actually some clarification there.
Having used UT on a P3A XL with zero VOLTE support and my current FP5, I was not aware that MMS was also working. Mine just never come through at all, if I swap the sim to a spare phone they all show up.
I thought this may have been APN settings so I contacted my MVNO and got the settings to manually enter with no luck. I did flash Lineage for a sanity check and they work with that, however Android automatically set some completely different APN settings so I'll try those next.
Unless its something weird with the Fiarphone 5 port.
In terms of mentioning flatpacks, I suggested those largely on the fact that doing a search for the apps I need and finding them there already was a bonus. The million dollar question is do they work on mobile.
I would just like to share my experience with UT, maybe get some ideas on things I did not try and possibly share some that may help.
First things first I would like to thank anyone who had a hand in getting UT to where it is today, I think this project is incredibly important and in my opinion the mobile OS space is at a turning point and really needs something like UT in a big way.
What/Where/Why:
What - Fairphone 5 on T-Mobile (GSM)
Where - US
Why - Ownership, in today's day and age a mobile OS that the end user has any shred of ownership over is just about nonexistent, especially where I live.
What I expected:
Going into this with the knowledge that I may need to do some work to get things running and not everything from any major smartphone is going to work. That is perfectly fine and worth it for what you get.
My basic needs are: Calls, text messages, quick web search for an answer, maybe some music while making dinner.
What I found:
This may vary, and I understand its dependent on all of the factors from who where why.
Calls work as expected
Web search (specifically on the FP5) has a weird bug where apparently it thinks the screen is 9" and everything is zoomed out. Bit of an annoyance with my aging eyes.
Text messages this is where I really had some trouble, RCS is a major sticking point as its forced by other devices and even MFA codes. Even SMS has a 10 min delay and is delivered with a current timestamp so for me it looks like it just got here, but to my wife who sent a text from the car asking for help carrying groceries in I ignored her.
Its not all bad though, there is plenty to like. Its very stable even running a nightly release on my device as the devel had a weird WIFI bug. My phone was 99% what I expected out of it. The gesture control was WAY ahead of it time when Ubuntu Edge was announced and UT along with it, since then all the major players have copied it in one way or another.
Some ideas (from a non programmer):
I know that there was some chatter about RCS somewhere, but its hard to tell what is relevant anymore as there is a lot of outdated information floating around in the ether. A somewhere official with the current state of affairs that is not on telegram would be a big help I think. Maybe I simply overlooked it, I would do a search for a feature, find a github page that moved to gitlab (or something else) that is now dead or had a link that sent me back to github.
I am willing to bet everyone is elbows deep in getting 24.04 stable and pushed but I do have a wish list I would like to share.
I think that getting something like flatpack running would be very beneficial to the platform as a whole. To break dependencies on Android (which I will get into) and Two for the same reasons that they are easier for linux distro's containerized/one "package" works everywhere/ and to really broaden the availability of applications for the platform.
Breaking dependency from Android, I understand there is a layer involved with helium, but Google looks to be merging Chrome OS and Android. They have stopped providing build trees for Pixel phones which seems to have had a negative impact on GraphineOS presumably other AOSP roms like Lineage. It also coincidentally aligns with the leads at CalyxOS stepping down and them pausing all new releases.
Now I am not saying these are all linked or some conspiracy, but I do think relying more on Linux for apps or low level device support and not Android would be a net positive. Again I am not a dev, just a passionate end user.
I don't even mind not having all the apps ever in the whole world either, if something like RCS was working where I can communicate with my family in a timely manor UT would be perfect for my daily needs.
IF you have suggestions, ideas, comments I am more than open to input on how to make that happen today.
Thanks!
@kugiigi Oh that is really interesting! I wonder if we can tweak a config or two and sort that out... I will need to do some searching around.
One other question, are you all using anything for messaging besides SMS with the messages app, if so how has your experience been? Missing RCS means missing a lot of messages from my wife/kids where the majority have a photo or something along those lines.
said in VoLTE Implementation For Google Pixel 3a/3a XL:
@atarilinux
After attempting to use LineageOS to connect to my cell network and test VOLTE, I found that my device would not even get cell service at all. MVNO reselling att.
I think even if I got that to boot, it would still not activate on my carrier.
I might be mistaken here and thinking about my old old P2 XL, I did a LOT of device flip/flopping over the last month or two. My 3a XL was supposedly refurbished and was having battery issues so I sent back to the seller. I have been focusing time and finances into the Fairphone 5 since.
@kugiigi said in FP5 OOBE Setup Hanging at WiFi:
@Futura Oh I see. That's the Noble image (Ubuntu 24.04). I guess it's more stable or less buggy than focal
It's been 8 days using the 24.04 Daily builds and there are some quirks that I have noticed that were not present on the Pixel 3a XL I was testing with.
But it is working, and it's surprisingly stable.
Maybe someone with the devel build on a fp5 can give me some insight here. Are you having some weirdness with the browser appearing like the desktop version of the site (not responsive designed)? That is basically my biggest gripe.
@atarilinux
After attempting to use LineageOS to connect to my cell network and test VOLTE, I found that my device would not even get cell service at all. MVNO reselling att.
I think even if I got that to boot, it would still not activate on my carrier.
@Vlad-Nirky said in FP5 OOBE Setup Hanging at WiFi:
@Futura
Have you tried restarting the wifi router or changing the network?
I've had my phone not connect to wifi in the past and that was the problem.
I did try both and brought the device to another network with no luck. After a couple of restarts the phone would fail to even see any wifi networks around it.
@Ida_
I went to sign up for telegram and they never sent the SMS code to verify my phone number with.
Shame its not somewhere more accessible..
@kugiigi said in FP5 OOBE Setup Hanging at WiFi:
@Futura What do you mean "Daily"? I don't think FP5 has a Stable channel yet
In the installer go to Settings/Show hidden System-Image Builds, in the drop down where the devel build is there is a ----hidden builds---- section with what I am assuming is a alpha build they call "daily" and most cases its referred to as a "nightly" build.
I had isolated this to not be something environmental like the OS I am installing from, the installer I am using, a cable or port etc etc. Installing another build and having it work means there is 100% something off with the WiFi/Modem settings in the devel build that is not present in the daily build.
