@advocatux Did a last try with the Asus running 10.04 LTS. After uninstalling modemmanager, it finally worked
Thanks to all.
It now just remains to update to the latest version.

@kugiigi said in Libertine and Desktop apps in OTA-14:

Also, running desktop apps per se isn't part of convergence, it will only make sense if they are also usable of smaller screens which most of them are not and that's why they are called legacy apps in libertine. Good thing is that because of the Pinephone and LIbrem 5 and such, there are now efforts to make some desktop apps be convergent

Well, I guess there's a difference to make between smartphones and tablets. I'm running UBtouch on an Aquaris M10 and I'd love to be able to use it both as a tablet and a small desktop computer (with a BT keyboard and mouse). I look forward to the new developments you mention which will eventually make this possible.

@AppLee said in Use it as a desktop PC:

Hi @naizena
I share your frustration, but we do not have a say on the hardware development.

I am feeling just like you. As a matter of fact, I raised this issue already 5 years ago, see https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5207/libertine-and-desktop-apps-in-ota-14/5?_=1749883727005

I don' think running desktop apps on a phone, even with an external screen, is the main interest. What would be of more interest in my mind is to be able to connect a tablet running Ubuntu Touch to a BT keyboard and mouse and use it as a desktop computer (running desktop apps). Using BT connections is no problem, but running desktop apps on Ubuntu Touch is still a problem. I wondered last year whether this had improved with Focal (see https://forums.ubports.com/topic/9953/desktop-apps-on-focal), there was NO reaction.

I am sorry to say that the only ones who succeeded in making a tablet that can also be used as a (small) desktop computer are Microsoft with their Surface Pro device.

I am continuing to check the UBTouch Forum once in a while for progress on this topic, but I lost hope...

Hi,

Does anyone have experience with desktop apps on Focal ?
I am considering replacing my BQ Aquarius M10 FHD tablet (which cannot run Focal) by a more recent one such as PineTab2, but I'd like to be sure I'll be able to run desktop apps such as LibreOffice, LaTeX or Lilypond/Frescobaldi.
Thanks for your feedback

@arubislander That's what I could guess from the forum.

Unfortunately, I cannot install Focal on my device, and I don't feel like purchasing another tablet at the moment.

@mihael

Well, when I first tried, Yahoo would not generate app passwords, it replied : Sorry, this feature is not available right now!

And, as far as Google was concerned, https://support.google.com/a/answer/6260879?hl=en
suggested I needed to have administrator privileges to able less secure apps.

So, Saturday, I took another try at Yahoo, and app password generation was working. So, I tried that, and Dekko2 could synchronise my Yahoo account.

Then, I realised that Google allowed using app passwords with normal user accounts as well on https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255#zippy=%2Cif-less-secure-app-access-is-off-for-your-account%2Cuse-an-app-password
I followed the instructions on
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833
to generate an app password, I used it to configure my gmail account on Dekko, and it synchronised finally.

Actually, this is the short version, there were a number of trials and errors along the way (Google instructions are not easy to follow, it's easy to do something wrong) but in the end, that's what it boils down to.

So, finally, it only remains one negative point in Dekko, namely that it leaves you with no explanation when there is a problem, you are totally in the mist.

@Keneda said in Dekko 2 and Microsoft Exchange Servers:

@gdegrez said in Dekko 2 and Microsoft Exchange Servers:

So far, I have not been successful with the installation of desktop software.

Did you use libertine contener for that purpose?

Yes, what else ?
Couldn't install Firefox, LibreOffice, Frescobaldi/Lilypond, Texmaker/texlive

Finally got it to work with my Google & Yahoo accounts using app passwords on Xenial!
Took me a while to figure out what went wrong the first times but all is well that ends well

Finally got it to work with my Google & Yahoo accounts using app passwords on Xenial!
Took me a while to figure out what went wrong the first times but all is well that ends well

@arubislander said in Dekko 2 and Microsoft Exchange Servers:

@gdegrez said in Dekko 2 and Microsoft Exchange Servers:

I apologize if this comes over as an unnecessarily harsh response to an innocent fact stated in the irrealis gramatical mood.

I don't understand the latter part of this sentence, but no need to apologize, I am not upset.

Again, I understand that diving into the code and fixing an issue / adding a feature might not be within reach of everyone. But actively getting in contact with the developers and working with them towards a solution, whatever form that takes, surely is the minimum of what could be expected of a user of Open Source?

Sure, but it requires that they respond...

I strongly support open source, I have been using all kinds of open source software for a number of years. And I have been spending time with the respective user communities yo help new users of those software, but I don't have the computer science skills to act as a developer.

As far as UB Touch is concerned, I went on trying it many years ago on a BQ Aquaris tablet because I always felt that Android and iOS were not satisfactory OS for tablets, and I looked forward to the convergence aimed at by UB Touch : " Ubuntu Touch is designed primarily for mobile devices. However, imagine connecting your mobile device to a monitor, mouse and keyboard and having it instantly transformed into a desktop experience. This is the goal of Convergence, an experimental feature for a unified experience on all devices. "

So far, I have not been successful with the installation of desktop software. I understand that Convergence is an experimental feature and developers had/have other priorities.
So, I just check once in a while the project progress. I was very excited about the launching of Focal but unfortunately I can't install it on my tablet. Never mind, again I understand that there are other priorities in terms of devices to support.

Thanks and congratulations to the developers participating in this project.

@mihael said in Dekko not connecting to IMAP or POP3 servers after update to focal:

@gdegrez There is a solution and it's described here: https://forums.ubports.com/post/74535

I of course know this thread.
But as I mentioned there, google won't let me turn on less secure apps!
And Yahoo app password generation doesn't work.

Back to square 1

@mihael said in Dekko not connecting to IMAP or POP3 servers after update to focal:

@arubislander Thank you for your input! But that is where the problem occurs: when I create the account and hit "Next" after manually entering the imap server and all details, it shows for a moment "Checking credentials" and then returns to the same screen, never proceeding further...

That's exactly what I am experiencing (on Xenial). Now, if Google dropped support for insecure apps as mentioned, there is no solution, is there?