@totalsonic
Also, I installed Lubuntu Software Center as suggested in https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html but it doesn't work: in tablet mode (without BT KB+M), it just doesn't open the software KB, so searching for a package is impossible and in desktop mode, it doesn't find anything, actually, all listed categories seem to be empty.
Kind regards,
Gérard
Followed your instructions. Installation of firefox-esr-locale-fr-78.12.0esr+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 went all right, but firefox-esr does not appear in the apps window after rebooting nor on the output of ubuntu-app-launch-appids in a terminal window 
Thanks anyway
@gdegrez said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:
Actually, the apps that I would be mostly interested in are a web browser allowing me to connect to my google drive, frescobaldi for music engraving, texmaker and LibreOffice.
An update:
firefox: couldn't find firefox-esr in the list of available debian packages
frescobaldi: crashes
libreoffice writer: crashes
texmaker: crashes
I guess I have to wait...
Thank you very much.
I had only tried the standard firefox, which doesn't work indeed, and Frescobaldi (music engraving), which didn't work either.
Actually, the apps that I would be mostly interested in are a web browser allowing me to connect to my google drive, frescobaldi for music engraving, texmaker and LibreOffice.
I understand running desktop apps on a phone is not convenient and doesn't deserve attention from the developers. The picture is different for tablets, which, with a BT KB & M, can be transformed in a mini laptop.
I also understand that it doesn't make sense to spend time on Libertine until the new OS release based on 20.04, and that the technical difficulties are not trivial at all.
As I said in my original post, I am just checking progress on this issue once in a while, as I really look forward to when
" Imagine linking your mobile device to a monitor, mouse and keyboard and having it instantly transformed into a desktop experience. With Ubuntu Touch you only need one device."
will become reality.
@dobey said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:
PS3: I installed the application in a container of my own. The system however came with a built-in (puritine) container in which several apps (such as libreoffice) are supposedly installed. But I don't know how to launch them (and even whether they can be launched at all): ubuntu-app-launch-appids does not show them at all.
Wait, you have the built-in "puritine" container? If so, you are not running the version of Ubuntu Touch that we ship. There is no such thing provided by UBports. It sounds like you need to use the ubports-installer to reflash your device and upgrade to the current version.
I used to have the built-in 'puritine' container when I installed UBTouch a couple of years ago if I remember, and it remained there after upgrading at least until OTA-15, but it's indeed no longer there in OTA-18, there is now a built-in container called 'Desktop Applications'.
But that's irrelevant, what matters to me is that none of the desktop apps that I tried to install in the container of my own worked [I guess because the windowing protocol used by the Desktop apps is not supported by the OS/hardware].
Hi,
This is a follow-up on https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5207/libertine-and-desktop-apps-in-ota-14
and
https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5282/libertine-not-working-on-pine64-pinetab/3?loggedin=true
Has there been any progress on this issue over the past 6 months?
I keep checking once in a while, as I would really like to be able to run desktop apps on my BQ Aquaris M10 FHD.
Gérard
Hi Kathy,
Libertine is not working properly, and it doesn't seem to be a major preoccupation of the UBports developers. I refer you to the subject I launched about this in November: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5207/libertine-and-desktop-apps-in-ota-14
I was able to install some desktop apps in Libertine but none of them worked
I didn't install OTA-15 yet, but I doubt it makes any difference.
@doniks said in Libertine and Desktop apps in OTA-14:
@gdegrez Ah, right. I didn't read it carefully enough. Tbh, I only have second hand knowledge about puritine. I understand it was a prerolled, read only container that Canonical shipped. My guess is: It's probably best to not care too much about that anymore. UBports has made lots of updates to repositories, so you're probably better off today with a self created libertine container anyway. I don't think puritine ever offered any unique advantage over a self created container, other than sparing you the creation
Thanks. Yes, that works but, unfortunately, many desktop apps don't work under Libertine (in my recent limited experience, firefox, frescobaldi, musescore)
Hope that future developments will bring a solution. But the fact that the only supported tablet is the BQ Aquaris M10 (no more recent device using wayland) worries me a bit...
@doniks said in Libertine and Desktop apps in OTA-14:
That also solves "PS3", right?!
Well, I'm not fully sure. As ubuntu-app-launch-appids does not show them at all, I guess they are not installed (despite what is mentioned in the system parameters). Actually, the .cache/libertine-container/puritine appears to be empty, rootfs is just a soft link to an inexisting directory, which supports my guess. Right?
@gdegrez said in Libertine and Desktop apps in OTA-14:
PS2: As they don't work, I would like to uninstall Firefox and Frescobaldi/Lilypond. How to do that properly is unclear to me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Got this one from http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html
@Flohack said in Libertine and Desktop apps in OTA-14:
Converges is not "running desktop apps on a phone". For us its mainly a task to create Apps that behave well on devices of various size and capabilities.
Firefox is in no way optimized to run in UT, and Libertine is kind of a bridging the gap, but still has a lot of chances to break. You will run into a lot of usability issues, also exchanging data between other apps outside Libertine may not work.
Well, I guess I misunderstood the statement on ubuntu-touch.io under the heading Convergence: " Imagine linking your mobile device to a monitor, mouse and keyboard and having it instantly transformed into a desktop experience. With Ubuntu Touch you only need one device. "
I've long resisted purchasing a tablet because I hate the iOS and Android operating systems which do not allow to do anything serious on those machines. I finally purchased a (2nd hand) Aquaris M10 FHD to install UBTouch on it, hoping that I would be able to do more. I am a musician, I would like to be able to engrave my scores (using Frescobaldi/Lilypond or Musescore), install the tablet on a stand with the resulting pdf (with the possibility of annotating it) and connect it to a BT pedal to turn the pages as I am playing using a single device.
With iOS and Android, I can do the second part, but I need a desktop or laptop running a decent OS for the engraving part.
I understand it's not an easy job to make this possible (Microsoft failed with Windows 8 and the Metro interface), but I still look forward to the fact that it will be possible some day.
PS1: I tried to install Firefox because I cannot connect to my google account (shame on me) with the Morph browser and there's no alternative browser.
PS2: As they don't work, I would like to uninstall Firefox and Frescobaldi/Lilypond. How to do that properly is unclear to me.
Any help would be appreciated.
PS3: I installed the application in a container of my own. The system however came with a built-in (puritine) container in which several apps (such as libreoffice) are supposedly installed. But I don't know how to launch them (and even whether they can be launched at all): ubuntu-app-launch-appids does not show them at all.
@kugiigi said in Libertine and Desktop apps in OTA-14:
Also, running desktop apps per se isn't part of convergence, it will only make sense if they are also usable of smaller screens which most of them are not and that's why they are called legacy apps in libertine. Good thing is that because of the Pinephone and LIbrem 5 and such, there are now efforts to make some desktop apps be convergent
Well, I guess there's a difference to make between smartphones and tablets. I'm running UBtouch on an Aquaris M10 and I'd love to be able to use it both as a tablet and a small desktop computer (with a BT keyboard and mouse). I look forward to the new developments you mention which will eventually make this possible.
Hello,
This is a kind of follow-up on the same subject on OTA-12.
I've tried (successfully) to install Firefox and Frescobaldi yesderday, but neither works properly. Frescobaldi launches and then quits, Firefox issues an error message like " the tab crashed, click on restore the tab to reload the page".
Looks like there is still a long way to go before achieving true convergence. Any report of (really) successful Desktop app installation on OTA-14?
Gérard
Thanks, that works.
Strange though that one cannot cut and paste across applications.
I'd like to transfer a note into another app for further processing on my laptop.
I clicked on "modify", selected the whole text and clicked "copy" but I can't manage to paste it into any other application, such as Dekko2 (to send it by mail) or Writer.
I can't print it either from Notes.
Any suggestion?
Thanks.
Gérard
@guru
Well, I enventually succeeded to connect to the account (although I had tried the same config. before without success).
But I just get the list of messages but the messages are empty (except for attachments)
@guru said in Dekko 2 account settings:
I connect to Microsofts servers via IMAP and SMTP to read my mails of my company Exchange server. The connect details are:
imaps://username@company.com@pod51010.outlook.com/INBOX smtp://username@company.com@pod51010.outlook.com:587
Hi, I come back to your previous message. Are you connecting to the Exchange server with Dekko2, or with the web browser? If it is with Dekko2, I guess that the ingoing mail settings should be:
Server name: pod51010.outlook.com
Username: username@company.com
Port: (443 ?)
Security: SSL/TLS ?
And, as far as the outgoing mail settings are concerned,
Server name: pod51010.outlook.com
Username: username@company.com
Port: 587
Security: SSL/TLS
Is this correct?
@guru
With Thunderbird on Ubuntu 16.04LTS, there's an add-on to connect to MS Exchange servers, with which I could connect successfully. Now, I see that the server ID includes the ews path, of the form exchange.company.com/ews/something.aswx
I didn't try yet with Dekko2, do you think that might work?
@guru Well, I could find the file for my first identity, but that includes no info on the outgoing and ingoing mail servers. And I couldn't find the files for the 2 other identities.
No way to set up my account on the exchange server. All attemps unsuccesful
@guru said in Dekko 2 account settings:
They are stored in some database files and I found no way to change/add such configs.
Would you know the name of the file? At least, I could see the impact of changes performed with the GUI.
No, at least the DNS and port could be different.
Yes, the port is different. In your example, pod51010.outlook.com is the server's internet name, right? and it's the same for both incoming and outgoing servers.