@jmlich In my opinion if you need Android apps a lot, UT is not a good choice. Waydroid is a good complement of UT for Android apps you really need, but if you need a lot of them, I think a good advise is to better stay in Android. For instance if you use Whatsapp a lot, UT will not be ideal.
You should use UT if you have UT apps for all your basic needs, except a few ones, like bank apps or public apps only available in Android and Iphones.
I second the support for working the documentation in UBports Docs, it is better to keep things organized and centralized, and at least for me reading is much more valuable that watching a video, but I'm from a non-media generation. For instance I'm still struggling with the lack of mailing lists in this community (fortunately we have this forum, because I get completely lost in the chats).
@cherrie One way of checking, if you have a Linux installation, is to install Waydroid there and try, Waydroid can be installed in most Linux distributions.
My experience with Fairphone 5:
Working in my car for receiving and sending calls. Works also connected to a Pebble watch.
Works for me, it takes 10 to 20 minutes to get a fix, in the open air or at the balcony of my place (1st floor of a building 9 floors high). Sometimes it takes longer, if I don't see a fix in 20 minutes I restart the phone.
Using the current development image the battery lasts for the whole day, unless using Waydroid for too long. I haven't seen the background apps draining battery so far.
I use it with Waydroid in the transport system of my city, no issues.
Calls: No issues, 5G or Volte are working.
SMS/MMS: SMS fine, I don't use MMS.
Waydroid: Very fluid, but it hangs often when put in the background. Not a big deal because it starts in seconds.
Connection to PC: No issues to mount the device in Linux, or connect with adb.
Wifi/network: Disconnects if moving between WIFI antenna, but otherwise no issues.
Despite that I would love not to depend on Google, I have to sync my UT calendar and contacts with my Google accounts, as this is what my job uses. But it seems that Google is changing security policies and will not allow UT to sync any more with their services. This is the email I received:
"Hello,
Although you do not have to do anything, we want to inform you that it is possible the following applications stop accessing some of the data of your Google Account, such as the content of Gmail. If these applications do not meet the requirements of the new data policy before the stipulated date, they will not be able to access the account after July 15, 2019.
Ubuntu
This change is part of our constant efforts to guarantee the privacy and protection of your data.
In the Google Account you can check, manage and delete whenever you want the applications that you have granted access to."
Is there anything that can be done to keep the ability to sync to Google apps?
Compiz and Unity 7, as far as I know, where not used in the phone/table form factor. The design of Unity 7 was going in that direction, but the phone always used Unity 8 and the Mir compositor (Compiz and Unity 7 were on traditional xorg as far as I know).
On the other hand, Unity 8 and its successor Lomiri where focused on the phone/table form factor, there has been much less investment to make it operative for the computer desktop.
So I think Compiz/Unity 7 vs. Unity8/Lomiri is not a completely valid comparison.
@Emanuele-Sorce Thanks a lot for such a detailed guide, I think it's crucial that we have a working development environment if we want to contribute.
@arubislander Maybe if somebody from the community saves a kid of Zuckerberg from drowning, or something like that...
I'm still longing for classical mailing lists with searchable archives (and the forums) for this project, and chats only for interactive non-permanent exchanges, but I'm an old guy and I lost this battle long ago. For me it is a pain to look for old information in the Telegram chat.
There are a couple of apps in the Ubuntu Store that I'm interested in and that don't seem to have any chance of being moved over by the original authors to the OpenStore. These are apps that were created like 2 years ago, received a couple of updates, but haven't been touched any further in the last two years.
My questions:
Is it OK to fork them and move them to the Openstore? (They are all free software with GPL licences)
Should the original authorship be kept in the package, or only in the code?
@libremax I did two talks in Ubuntu install parties of the Catalan Loco Team.
May 19, 2018 - Palma "UBports i sistemes mòbils alternatius" (in Catalan), Bionic Beaver Install Party, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/Activitats/BionicBeaverPalma
May 26, 2018 - Foios "UBports i sistemes mòbils alternatius" (in Catalan), Bionic Beaver Install Party, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/Activitats/BionicBeaverValència
The slides are copied from Lionel's and extended:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/Activitats/BionicBeaverValència?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=presentacio_os_mobils.pdf
@gt I also have this problem. The description is that the screen gets unreactive, showing whatever it was there. Sometimes I also notice that Unity opens some random applications without any touch. Turning off and on (without rebooting) the phone gets the responsiveness back, sometimes the button has to be pressed more than once. I attributed it first to Waydroid, since it was more or less after I installed it that I started noticing this, but even if I don't start Waydroid I still see the issue.
It is especially annoying when you get a call and you cannot respond to it.
Good to hear (sorry) that this does not affect only me, because I was starting to think it is a hardware problem, and I wanted to make sure that it was not only affecting me before opening a bug report.
Has anybody already opened an issue on this?
@klh I guess the Pinewatch is a good candidate. I have one and right now it does not have any support in UT, I believe.
@cefre00 Better open a new post for your problem.
@mark-volpetti Mark, this a community project, so there are no "they" and "we", there is only "we". You can go to the web-site repository and open a ticket ("issue"):
@dremelts I have an OPO also with OTA 15 stable channel and GPS works normally. It takes a while until it gets the first fix and applications start responding, something like between 10 to 15 minutes outdoors.
@alan_g So is ofonod the culprit? In my Nexus 5, it seems it got fear to be discovered because it hasn't done this for more than 20 days. My battery is lasting now all day long when it doesn't enter into this process.
@MrT10001 There is currently a note saying that due to a bug the ISO is oversized:
I managed to create an app with QTWebengine for Whatsapp Desktop which allows me to read my Whatsapp groups from time to time, the only thing I need since I'm not using Whatsapp myself. I just published it to the Openstore.
@bhdouglass Personally, I like it. We don't need to imitate the home screen of any other system, but having something more organized than the current app scope is clearly a need. Eventually we should optionally also get time/weather in this screen.