@luksus said in Libertine > OK ... NOK ? FP3+: Make sure that your device does not go to sleep, while installing a new container. Hi @Luksus , Thank's to you as usual and your excellent ideas, It's now OK ! I tried yesterday after many many others try to install Debian paquets watching my phone no falling asleep and it's perfect. Now Libertine is OK on my FP3+

@moem this picture was for @Lakotaubp because not possible to send in private, it seems Yes he has (well) done the job

@pulsar33 Yes, wireshark is not designed to be run from an unprivileged container, as it requires a user in privileged group, and has a setuid binary. Therefore you should not try to run it in a libertine container, as it will not work properly.

I've been facing the same problems and was about to create an issue (but I've no time this week-end). Don't worry, you can install applications, but the name and the password that you give to create the container seem useless. If you have a container in the GUI, delete it to be sure there was no problem when you closed the screen. Swipe the name of the container to the right and hit the "trashcan". When you see "Get started" create a new container and let it do its job. To see what's happening, swipe the container name to the left and hit "information" then "view" if necessary and go down to see the log. Wait until completion ...! Once it's over, the GUI shows the name that you proposed but you have now a clean container named "xenial". Install for example gnome-system-monitor (good tool to see what's happening on you phone). Hit the spinning wheel to see the log as above and wait until completion ...! Enjoy Pulsar33 See it working in this subject for example

@dobey Well, I'm currently discovering the Libertine usage and trying to compile, test, modify (if needed for convergence) some source code of my own. These source codes are on my Desktop PC running Linux MINT 19.3, in a Folder called Workbench and containing many sub-folders (one for each application that I developed and some for general functions reused by many of my applications). I use the Eclipse IDE to compile and debug all that since years ... It was simplest for me to copy some folders needed for CheckLog in the Documents folder and compile in place, then test. I'm not in the process of developing published code and I'm not used to create deb files. That said, if Libertine is a Desktop-like environnement, I don't see why there should be specific location to install excutable, icons and data. A sub-folder anywhere should work as well, no ? @dobey said : I'm not clear on what you mean by that, or what error you got, Since the beginning of this thread, I successively tried to launch my own GUI App (already validated on MINT) in its own window (not in the LXTerminal) and then create a launcher to be able to launch it from outside Libertine as every normal application. This means with an icon displayed in the drawer, a temporary splash-view displaying the Icon and the name of the application, then the application itself in its own window (in Windowed mode or Staged mode). I explained each step of what I discovered and list any unsolved questions, and fortunately any solution I found. At this time, there are some "strange" things for which I don't know if they are bugs or not. @dobey you suggested me to post an issue about the BT Keyboard for Libertine, so you are involved in this development. Maybe you can advise me about these points : libertine-container-manager exec and libertine-launch can't be used in a .desktop file located on the UBports side to launch a GUI App in Libertine. In the same way, these commands can't be used in the UBPorts Terminal. There are "chroot" or "DISPLAY" errors. Is this a bug ? On the opposite, the command "ubuntu-app-launch xenial_checklog_0.0" works but is not described in the Libertine Documentation (AFAIK). The issue 194 still open says libertine gui apps cannot run. This is not true (anymore if it was). Should it be closed ? When a desktop file is located in /home/phablet/.cache/libertine-container/xenial/rootfs/usr/share/applications/ and in /userdata/user-data/phablet/.cache/libertine-container/xenial/rootfs/usr/share/applications/ the launcher appearing in the drawer can start a GUI App located in some arbitrary sub-folder of ~/Documents but the icon located in the same sub-folder is not displayed, neither in the drawer, nor in the splash-view during the application loading time. Is this a bug ? Thank you for your opinion and suggestions BR Pulsar33

Disable app suspension for the terminal app on the tweak tool if you want. Also, if you plan to create apps, you can try Seabass. It's a great code editor and supports creating a libertine container for building via clickable.

@kugiigi Could you explain how that would work? Which app do you have in mind. I looked for keyboard apps and installed some, but this did not allow me to have a keyboard app up when emacs started.

I figured out how to resolve this so incase anybody has this same issue and would like what appears to be a good fix I was able to determine that I could delete the contents of... ~/.cache/libertine-container/ ~/.local/share/libertine-container/user-data/ using the the terminal 'rm -R CONTAINER-IDENTIFIER' an also under ~/.local/share/libertine to remove the ContainerConfig.json

@abrekkos I think not until libertine uses wayland/xwayland. Xmir just didn't get into a good state and actually regressed a bit and it's unmaintained.

@TartanSpartan said in Concerning Libertine and it's status within the Ubuntu Touch OS: I think there's value to be had from being able to use spreadsheets on the go, or to design a presentation, or to write up a nice document with a word processor (show me any UT native app for word processing which comes close to the functionality of Libre Office Writer). Clearly UBports would agree, given the pitch for the M10 FHD as "This tablet provides you a great workflow as a portable laptop. Imagine travelling by plane and working on your documents using LibreOffice.". and also it's "The tablet to travel with". That's still up there on the link I cited above. I do not contest that many in the Foundation will agree that Libertine adds value. I do feel however that too much weight is placed on pronouncements in the device descriptions. The description for the tablet sounds more like 'marketing speech' that has been retained from the Canonical days to me. I don't object to it, but I don't see in it any promise of perpetual support either. Concerning Libertine, the hope was that by highlighting its availability there would have been community members willing and able to step up and contribute bug fixes and features to the code. Unfortunately that does not seem to have happened to the degree that would have made an impact. After the switch to Wayland we might have another opportunity to see this hope realized. I also think that pronouncements in Q&A's or on Social Media regarding Libertine should not be taken as hard promises at this time, but more as declared intents based on best effort. Until such a time as a team can be formed around the maintenance of Libertine, similar to what has happened for Dekko2 and is now coalescing around Podbird, I don't see how much progress can be made.